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No, and neither do you. But I'm not the one claiming Elite Systems are running Durell as a publishing label. But you are making claims as to the nature of the relationship between Durell and Elite, when you don't know what it is. I am not making any such claims. Part of the point of the approach I ...

StooB wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 10:27 am Putting the developer's logo on the cover does not make it a label.

But it does require a legal arrangement. Do you know the terms of that agreement? And if not, how can you determine what it might or might not constitute?

Elite didn't buy the Durell label, just the games. Elite cannot release games as Durell Software Ltd because Durell Software Ltd still exists and is still publishing software. But Elite did release Critical Mass under the Durell label. They would need to have had some legal basis for using the Dure...

That entry is completely consistent with Chain Reaction. If you're going to change the guidelines to list the logo on the front cover as the publisher then half of US Gold games will need changing. https://zx.computerhits.org/jpg150/bountybobstrikesback.jpg https://zx.computerhits.org/jpg150/superc...

Let's lay out our points and Einar can decide. Good idea. Here’s how I see the debate. At issue is whether “Publisher” should refer to (1) the brand a game is published under (the “name on the box”) or (2) the ultimate parent legal entity responsible for publishing the game. I think (1); StooB seem...

Obviously. I personally do not consider it obvious, when: 1. Your link leads to dozens of entries. 2. You don't specify an issue number. 3. The only numbered reference you give is incorrect. But whatever the different opinions, the "your-problem" approach to the issue isn't exactly constr...

I've told you exactly which issues they are, three times now. There is only one feature on Ultimate in 1988 in each of those magazines. If you can't use this site then that's your problem. Issue numbers? Dates? This is like getting blood from a stone! I presume you mean Crash 51 (Apr 88) and Games ...

Whether the publisher is listed as Durell and/or Elite, it's still going to need an explanatory note to explain why an Durell game has been released in Elite-style packaging with their name and address on. "Elite-style packaging"? It only mentions "Elite" in small print on the i...

I cited exactly where the information is. Trying to claim I didn't is - to use your words - a bit off. You linked to the archive's entire contents for Ultimate. That's not exact. Anyone can click on your link to confirm the veracity of my statement, so I don't see any point in debating this further...

So no evidence, then. If you do believe you have evidence, please cite it. Vague "I-seem-to-recall-an-article" statements don't cut it. And to link to literally every single Ultimate article, review and advert as a source is - let's keep this polite - a bit off. For contrary evidence, see ...

This whole, increasingly tedious, discussion about legal details we know very little about illustrates precisely why the legal-entity route is just opening a can of worms.

Branding the game Durell throughout (and not Elite) is exactly what a branded release looks like. As for your claims about legal distictions, do you have any reliable sources to support your assertions? As far as I understand it, Ultimate sold the rights to their games to US Gold, then reacquired th...

It's not consistent because it's a different situation. US Gold took over the running of the Ultimate brand like Ocean bought the Imagine label. Elite did not take over Durell and run it as a label, Durell simply sold the rights to their games to them and Elite published them. Elite did operate Dur...

Chain Reaction's cover has Elite's address on it and (C) Elite Systems on it. It wasn't published by Durell Software of Somerset, who continue to exist to his day. Chain Reaction's cover does not, unless I am mistaken, mention Elite at all. It does carry an address, but without naming the company t...

It may be, but if the legal owner is one that denies distribution like Elite Systems, then these details need to be 100% accurate rather than "intuitive". Are you willing to undertake the necessary research to amend all the database entries on this basis? How will you handle situations wh...

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The game is by Durell but the publisher is still Elite Systems. Under the Durell brand. US Gold published Martianoids under the Ultimate brand, and that is listed as published by Ultimate. It seems to me the brand used for publishing is the only practical way to decide on the publisher. Trying to u...

Per this thread, the publisher of Chain Reaction should be Durell, not Elite:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=10172

PeteProdge wrote: ↑Sun Oct 01, 2023 10:21 am Also, this site counts it as an Elite game.

It seems as though the database should be corrected, and the publisher changed to Durell.

Maybe try asking on Stardot: https://stardot.org.uk/forums/

bluespikey wrote: ↑Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:27 am Just look at the robot, OK? Ignore everything else.

It doesn't seem a very strong resemblance to me, but I may have been distracted.... Maybe it was a loose inspiration.

Honestly I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of games I can identify in this thread after seeing the full screen shot!

I think Killer DOS was an early title for Fat Worm Blows a Sparky. As for Fat Worm itself, we seem to have a difference of opinion here, Geoffrey. I bought the thing back in the day and still want my money back!

This is awesome! Thanks to all involved.

I presume the "different adventure" was Tower of Despair:

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/7 ... of_Despair