Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

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Re: Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

Post by PQR » Fri Aug 02, 2019 8:40 am

Juan F. Ramirez wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:34 pm
I've always thought this game was a conversion of an arcade game, it looks very arcade-ish, and curiously I came across next game by chance some days ago: Challenger for the Famicom (the japanese NES, if I'm not wrong).

I made some research and it was released in Japan in 1985 (Stop the Express was published in 1983) and both were coded by Hudson Soft, from Japan.

So the first version was made for the Spectrum. In the japanese console version the character goes from left to right (the opposite in Stop the Express). The rest are similar.

Checking other Hudson Soft games I see all are games that must have been converted to arcades (Eric and the Floaters is just great!)
The first version was not made for the Spectrum I think.

According to Wikipedia the game was programmed for the Sharp X1 first. Which makes sense because Hudson Soft is a Japanese developer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_the_Express wrote: Stop the Express (also known as Bousou Tokkyuu SOS (暴走特急SOS, "Runaway Express SOS")in Japan) is a video game created by Hudson Soft in 1983 . It was made for Sharp X1 first, and later ported to the ZX Spectrum, Commodore 64 and the MSX.

It was remade for Nintendo Family Computer as Challenger(チャレンジャー) in 1985.
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Re: Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

Post by Juan F. Ramirez » Fri Aug 02, 2019 10:28 am

Yep, it makes sense now as it was strange a japanese developer making a game for the Spectrum originally.
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Re: Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

Post by Joefish » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:20 pm

DenisGrachev wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:05 pm
You'll be surprised but there are WAS arcades with Speccy games in USSR even in my little city. As far i remember there was a Harrier Attack and Crazy Cars 2 cabinets i played at 1990-1991. There was another speccy cabinets all around USSR with different games we discussed it some time ago at zx.pk.ru
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:33 pm
I know a few of these - they're all in MAME.
  • Brodjaga
    This is 'Inspector Gadget and the Circus of Fear (Melbourne House 1987)'.
  • Czernyj Korabl
    This is Black Beard (Topo Soft 1988).
  • Povar, Sobrat' Buran and Agroprom.
    These are Cookie, Jetpac and Pssst (Ultimate 1983).
I think there's a few more, but these are the ones I can remember.
I had no idea - these are fascinating!

They're the only games that seem to show up here:
http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/lista_mame. ... ade_only=0

Interesting that screenshots for Inspector Gadget and the Cookie multi-game seem to show an overlaid timer in the bottom-left corner, bit in-game and on the 'Game Over' screen. Did these work like the SEGA multi-play cabinets and just give you a limited playing time?

I'm guessing that "1 MOHETA - 1:00" on the instructions screen of that Cookie game means '1 Rouble for 1 Minute'..?

I can't see the same timer on the Black Beard screen, but it says the same on its title screen.
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Re: Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

Post by DouglasReynholm » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:45 pm

Juan F. Ramirez wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2019 10:34 pm
Checking other Hudson Soft games I see all are games that must have been converted to arcades (Eric and the Floaters is just great!)
Eric and the floaters was a sort of proto-Bomberman (not sure what I mean by that!) wasn't it? Renamed apparently for the UK due to the IRA activity of the 80's..? Dunno, maybe I dreamt it.
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Re: Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

Post by Foxbat_25 » Sun Aug 25, 2019 1:45 pm

Joefish wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:20 pm

I had no idea - these are fascinating!

They're the only games that seem to show up here:
http://adb.arcadeitalia.net/lista_mame. ... ade_only=0

Interesting that screenshots for Inspector Gadget and the Cookie multi-game seem to show an overlaid timer in the bottom-left corner, bit in-game and on the 'Game Over' screen. Did these work like the SEGA multi-play cabinets and just give you a limited playing time?

I'm guessing that "1 MOHETA - 1:00" on the instructions screen of that Cookie game means '1 Rouble for 1 Minute'..?

I can't see the same timer on the Black Beard screen, but it says the same on its title screen.
"Монета" means "coin" in Russian, I'd say the price would be a 10 kopek coin, as it seems to be the standard coin for Soviet arcade games. I mean, there's a museum for arcade games of the USSR in Moscow, and you buy a little packet of 10 kopek coins that you use to play the games, so it sound like it's the most realistic scenario to me. 1 rouble in the USSR was quite a big deal, you could buy a whole meal (a basic one, but still a whole meal) for that sort of money.
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Re: Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

Post by Alessandro » Sun Aug 25, 2019 8:15 pm

Sokurah wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:33 pm
DenisGrachev wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:05 pm
You'll be surprised but there are WAS arcades with Speccy games in USSR even in my little city. As far i remember there was a Harrier Attack and Crazy Cars 2 cabinets i played at 1990-1991. There was another speccy cabinets all around USSR with different games we discussed it some time ago at zx.pk.ru
I know a few of these - they're all in MAME.
  • Brodjaga
    This is 'Inspector Gadget and the Circus of Fear (Melbourne House 1987)'.
  • Czernyj Korabl
    This is Black Beard (Topo Soft 1988).
  • Povar, Sobrat' Buran and Agroprom.
    These are Cookie, Jetpac and Pssst (Ultimate 1983).
I think there's a few more, but these are the ones I can remember.
Back in 2012 I mentioned these in the Spectrumpedia (pages 397-398). Here is the translation:

FOTON-IK02. A definitely inusual clone, since the base architecture of the Spectrum, in this case, drives a coin-op board, programmable through the insertion of custom made ROMs, up to six. Made at the beginning of the '90s by the "Foton" cooperative in Penza (Russia), which already manufactured motherboards for coin-op machines.
Games were translated into Russian, adding a screen with instructions and play time restrictions, because after inserting a coin the game could last from a maximum of six minutes (default) to a minimum of one, set by a dedicated dip switch. A switching circuitry between ROM banks including some specifically programmed I/O ports made it possible to select between the currently available titles. These were: Brodjaga (Inspector Gadget And The Circus Of Fear); Čërnyj Korabl’ (Black Beard); Povar (Cookie)/Sobrat’ Buran (Jetpac)/Agronom (Pssst) (multi-game configuration). All of them are emulated by MAME starting from version 0.140.
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Re: Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

Post by Joefish » Mon Aug 26, 2019 12:54 pm

Did the games control the timing or was it driven by the master control board?
I'm curious how technically they inserted the timer into the Speccy display.
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Re: Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

Post by Alessandro » Mon Aug 26, 2019 1:09 pm

Probably the second because the timer resets as soon as the user inserts a coin in the machine. At least that's what happens with the games emulated through MAME.
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Re: Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

Post by DenisGrachev » Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:24 am

PeteProdge wrote:
Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:38 pm
How did that all work then? Has my hypothetical situation actually happened!? This is astonishing!
There was at leas 2 variants from different manafactures. One of them still not found. It was in my city (Harrier Attack, and Wec Le Mans(not crazy cars :) ).

Another one called FOTON ik2 or 3 was even dumped. It was based on one of the cheapest and super simple russian speccy clon Leningrad. It has custom ROM and some motherboard modifications. Original games was translated and patched. There was a special tittle screens with small history and rules and time limited with 2mins for 1 coin.

Here is some links on Russian:
http://micklab.ru/ZX%20Spectrum/Fotonik03.htm
https://zx-pk.ru/threads/9362-pk8000-ig ... age30.html
https://speccy.info/%D0%A4%D0%BE%D1%82% ... 98%D0%9A02

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Re: Which Speccy game would you put in an arcade?

Post by RWAC » Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:11 am

Deathchase with a sit on motorbike like the hang on arcade cabinet!
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