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The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:20 am
by PeteProdge
"Ah, Ocean, they didn't put out many games" is probably the wrongest thing you could say about the Manchester-based colossus. Your page-down key is going to beg for mercy on this poll.

Whatever you may think of them, Ocean put out masses of games for the ZX Spectrum back in the day and were an absolute commercial titan, taking up residence in the charts of best sellers. When it comes to commercial success, they're up there with US Gold (who you could perceive as rivals to Ocean, although there were some connected financial interests and even collaborations amongst their competitive nature).

I can't think of any ZX Spectrum owner who didn't have an Ocean game. Any Speccy games player who claims they haven't played an Ocean title, well, that's like a drinker saying he's never been into a Wetherspoons.

You'd be guaranteed to see pages of adverts for Ocean Software in the Speccy mags. US Gold aside, I can't think of another software label who was that good at marketing. And we really have to doff our cap to the late great Bob Wakelin, a non-gamer who wielded that airbrush like a magician to create such fantastic artwork. A kind of Peter Saville for the ZX Spectrum scene? Who knows, but there was never any bad Ocean inlay/poster art when he was involved.

Ocean will be synonymous with licensed games, covering arcade, TV, movies and sporting brands. Yes, they put out original titles too, but that was typically an exception.

By and large, Ocean really tapped into the movie market. Just about anything that was (or was going to be) a Hollywood blockbuster, got snapped up by the guys at 6 Central Street. If it was occupying the window space in your local Ritzy or Blockbuster Video, there's a strong chance Ocean had the computer game rights. It's astonishing how many big-hitters of the VHS era have arrived on the Speccy thanks to Ocean.

I'm not saying their movie-based games were all gold, oh hell no. Yes, there was 1989's Batman, but you also had things like... Highlander.

Ocean's in-house team produced a lot of coin-op conversions, although many were farmed off to the Imagine label they had acquired. (This is strictly a poll for games under the Ocean badge, even though Ocean-controlled Imagine was pretty much Ocean!) Imagine was used for a lot of arcade stuff, particularly Konami, it barely published any original creative output. (Now there's an anomaly I must pick up on - Gryzor should be Imagine; Movie should be Ocean - probably a few more examples like this if I really dug into it.)

The biggest catalyst for Ocean's riches in the early days was getting Daley Thompson on board. And I don't think many keyboards and joysticks were ever the same again.

Anyway, 106 titles are listed here. You have masses of choice. Probably too much choice. This will take up a lot of your time to decide which is best. Yes, there's plenty of shovelware, but you can't deny there are some utterly outstanding games and it'll be a head-scratcher for most as to which will get picked. This is what I call a definitive list of every ZX Spectrum game put out under the Ocean name, so it's as democratic as possible. (Let the arguments begin...)

Here goes, see you back at 11:20am UK time Sunday 21st July 2019 for the outcome...

Addams Family, The
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Adidas Championship Football
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Adidas Championship Tie-Break
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Armageddon
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Batman (3D isometric game by Jon Ritman)
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Batman: The Caped Crusader (arcade adventure)
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Batman: The Movie
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Battle Command
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Beach Volley
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Cabal
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Cavelon
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Chase HQ
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Chase HQ II: Special Criminal Investigation
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Chinese Juggler
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Cobra
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Combat School
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Cosmic Wartoad
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Daley Thompson's Decathlon
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Daley Thompson's Olympic Challenge
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Daley Thompson's Super-Test
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Darkman
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Digger Dan
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Donkey Kong
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Double Take
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Emilio Butragueno Futbol
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Eskimo Eddie
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Firefly
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Flashpoint
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Frankie Goes To Hollywood
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Gift From The Gods
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Gilligan's Gold
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Great Escape, The
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Gryzor
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Gutz
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Head Over Heels
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Highlander
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Hudson Hawk
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Hunchback
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Hunchback - The Adventure
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Hunchback II
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International Match Day
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It's A Knockout
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Knight Rider
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Kong
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Kong Strikes Back
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Madballs
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Mailstrom
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Mario Bros
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Match Day
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Match Day II
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Miami Vice
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Midnight Resistance
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Moon Alert
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Mr Wimpy
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Mutants
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N.O.M.A.D.
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Narc
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Navy Seals
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NeverEnding Story, The
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New Zealand Story, The
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Night Breed
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Nightmare Rally
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Operation Thunderbolt
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Operation Wolf
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Pang
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Phantom Club
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Platoon
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Plotting
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Pogo
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Power Drift
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Pud Pud
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Puzznic
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Quondam
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Rainbow Islands
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Rambo
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Rambo III
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Red Heat
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Road Race
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Robocop
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Robocop 2
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Robocop 3
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Roland's Rat Race
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Royal Birkdale: Championship Golf
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Run The Gauntlet
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Shadow Warriors
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Short Circuit
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Simpsons, The: Bart vs The Space Mutants
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Sly Spy
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Smash TV
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Space Gun
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Street Hawk
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Street Hawk - Kays Catalogue Edition
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Super Bowl
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Tai-Pan
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Tank
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Terminator 2: Judgment Day
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Top Gun
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Total Recall
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Track & Field
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Transformers, The
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Transversion
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Untouchables, The
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V
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WWF Wrestlemania
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Where Time Stood Still
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Wizball
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Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:15 pm
by Juan F. Ramirez
Daley Thompson's Decathlon for me. The first top game by Ocean, IMHO.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 1:43 pm
by Juan F. Ramirez
And my Ocean's top 3:

1 - DT Decathlon
2 - The Grest Escape
3 - Cobra

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:44 pm
by stupidget
Head over Heels for me as it's the one game in the list that I spent the most time playing. It's also the first game I played originally on the 48 and then a 128 when I upgraded. I still remember being amazed by the menu tune and the different tunes for each zone. Great stuff indeed.

1 - Head over Heels
2 - Rainbow Islands
3 - Wizball

I'd probably put Nightmare Rally in 4th as my mate and me spent ages playing that, but, never seemed to get anywhere.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:09 pm
by Nick
1 Rainbow Islands - possibly the best arcade conversion on the Speccy
2 The Great Escape
3 Head Over Heels

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 5:36 pm
by PeteProdge
1) Rainbow Islands
2) The New Zealand Story
3) Gryzor

The top two are utterly astonishing as arcade conversions, the gameplay is absolutely bang-on. Still astounded at how well they did. You can't ask for anything more, really.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 6:57 pm
by Turtle_Quality
Daley Thompson's Decathlon for me

Followed by Match Day and Rainbow Islands

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:43 pm
by MarkRJones1970
Why's Power Drift there? That was 1st published by Activision

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:42 pm
by PeteProdge
MarkRJones1979 wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 7:43 pm Why's Power Drift there? That was 1st published by Activision
Wait, what? *checks*

Oh f***, you are right. Some did creep in a week ago, and in the discussion phase, someone here spotted Activision's Predator, which I removed. I thought that was it. They came in because I was navigating huge lists under 'Ocean' on this site, and it tends to include anything that Ocean rereleased (a lot of Activision games came up in big box Ocean compilations).

Well, I can't edit the poll now, but I can declare any vote for Power Drift to be null and void - which goes for the forum poll and any proportional votes. Thanks for spotting it, I seriously regret that error.

Make it 105 Ocean games on the ZX Spectrum!

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:57 pm
by Hank Scorpio
1. The New Zealand Story
2. The Great Escape
3. Cobra

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 6:20 am
by AndyC
A nearly impossible choice. So many that would probably be in contention for a top ten all time best list. I went for Head Over Heels in the end, it's an all time favourite of mine. It took me years to finish it, but it's still fun to revisit even if I can no longer get as far. If I were picking a top three it would probably be:

1. Head over Heels
2. Rainbow Islands
3. RoboCop

Although in all likelihood that list would be different every time I scrolled through those images. Ocean really were a power house back in the day.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 8:25 am
by Metalbrain
1 - Operation Wolf
2 - Chase H.Q.
3 - Robocop

Honorable mentions: Rainbow Islands, Puzznic, Batman: The Movie

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:59 pm
by Pegaz
1. Nightmare Rally
2. Knight Rider
3. Pud Pud

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:32 pm
by Juan F. Ramirez
Pegaz wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:59 pm 1. Nightmare Rally
Great game. Spent hours playing it.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 9:57 pm
by PQR
1 :: Firefly – probably Joffa’s finest hour
2 :: Head over Heels – cute graphics and immensely enjoyable gameplay
3 :: Robocop – first enjoyed it on 48K, then blown away when I bought a 128K some time later

Runners up: The Great Escape, Daley Thompsons’s Super-Test, Chase HQ

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:22 pm
by PeteProdge
The strange thing is, that if this was carried out on the sales of games, then Robocop would be the runaway winner. (It's either Robocop or Activision's Ghostbusters which became the best selling ZX Spectrum game of all time.) As it is, Robocop only has one vote.

Currently way out in front is Head Over Heels, which is an original creation from Jon Ritman, no licenses involved. The History Of Ocean Software book reveals that Jon's isometric 3D take on Batman sold more than Head Over Heels. Which goes to show the commercial power of a license. Depressing, but true.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:17 am
by AndyC
When I first saw the topic, I honestly thought RoboCop was going to be the clear winner. Indeed I was convinced I'd vote for it myself. It was only scrolling through the list of images that I began to realise just how many contenders there were and, great as it is, I really couldn't put it first.

It really does show the power of a licence though, that's for sure.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:52 am
by Juan F. Ramirez
With some many great hits it's difficult to have a clear winner, the votes will be very dispersed.

I'm looking forward to seeing the results...

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:08 am
by WIWC
1) The Great Escape
2) Cobra
3) Head Over Heels

4) Robocop
5) Wizball
6) Where Time Stood Still
7) Match Day II
8) N.O.M.A.D.
9) Gift from the Gods
10) Match Day / International Match Day

err... why is Power Drift in the list?

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:18 am
by WIWC
Juan F. Ramirez wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 7:32 pm
Pegaz wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:59 pm 1. Nightmare Rally
Great game. Spent hours playing it.
Pegaz wrote: Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:59 pm 2. Knight Rider
Spent seconds playing it. They felt like hours.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:54 am
by Vampyre
1. Daley Thompson's Decathlon
2. Chase HQ
3. Head Over Heels

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:57 am
by Vampyre
stupidget wrote: Sun Jul 14, 2019 2:44 pm Head over Heels for me as it's the one game in the list that I spent the most time playing. It's also the first game I played originally on the 48 and then a 128 when I upgraded. I still remember being amazed by the menu tune and the different tunes for each zone. Great stuff indeed.

1 - Head over Heels
2 - Rainbow Islands
3 - Wizball

I'd probably put Nightmare Rally in 4th as my mate and me spent ages playing that, but, never seemed to get anywhere.
I loved Wizball too, I've never quite got the hate for it since I started on Speccy forums. Would probably have come 4th in my vote.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:47 pm
by PeteProdge
WIWC wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2019 10:08 amerr... why is Power Drift in the list?
Pure human error, votes won't count for it. An explanation on page 1, here.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:39 pm
by Fahnn
Ocean were never my favourite software house but it's absolutely undeniable that over their long history, they released some very high quality games. Sure, there was some rubbish, but when they got it right they tended to get it very right.

1. Daley Thompson's Decathlon
2. Firefly
3. Gilligan's Gold

Honourable mentions to Armageddon, Moon Alert, Match Day, Cavelon and especially Wizball. It's painful to exclude Wizball here, as it's probably one of my top ten games of all time, but the Spectrum version just isn't as good as the C64 original and it's really noticeable if you play them one after another. I know saying things like that is tantamount to heresy around these parts, but it's true.

Re: The best Speccy game by Ocean: vote

Posted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:59 pm
by Dark
Well I’m sure their use of marketing and licences worked on me as there was a lot of Ocean games that I had to go out and purchase when they came out. Whereas a lot of my games collection from other software houses were more done on a whim in the shop based on price, artwork and graphics, or because I’d played them at a friends.

To be fair I wasn’t disappointed with the games they produced, lot of great stuff in their catalogue. I’ve gone with Combat School as my favourite, remember playing it loads, had great graphics, gameplay, was just hard enough but not impossible and it had great music on the 128k version.

1. Combat School
2. Match Day II
3. Daley Thomson’s Olympic Challenge

4. Operation Wolf
5. Run the Gauntlet