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Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:40 pm
by Einar Saukas
PeteProdge wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:08 pmH Hobbit 128 by Melbourne House/Kayamon
Now I have a complain...

About 20 people participated in this project. Instead, you are crediting someone that didn't collaborate on anything, then released an unauthorized build that didn't respect any of the conditions requested by Veronika Megler either. :(

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:56 pm
by R-Tape
Continued...

A Alter Ego
B Buzzsaw+ by Jason J Railton
C Castlevania: Spectral Interlude by Rewind Team
D
E EFMB
F Fire 'N Ice by n-Discovery
G
H Hobbit 128 by Melbourne House/Community
I
J
K Karlos und Schatze der Azteken
L Los Amores de Brunilda
M Metal Man by Oleg Origin
N
O
P Prince Of Persia by Magic Soft [2]
Q Quadrax
R
S Sword of Ianna by RetroWorks
T That sinking feeling
U
V Vallation by Tardis Remakes
W
X X=Y=Z by Bob's Stuff
Y Yumiko in the Haunted Mansion
Z ZX Football Manager 2005
# <-- numeric


EFMB? Nay El Stompo?

This is one to tread carefully on! Einar was 'the people's Hobbit' finalised and released?

Edit - I added Alter Ego and Los Amores de Brunilda

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:42 pm
by Ralf

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:43 pm
by Einar Saukas
R-Tape wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:56 pmEFMB? Nay El Stompo?
I also prefer El Stompo!

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:55 pm
by hitm4n
I would like to protest on Q. Has to be Quazatron.

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:19 pm
by R-Tape
hitm4n wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:55 pm I would like to protest on Q. Has to be Quazatron.
Quazatron was released in 1986, so belongs in this thread, and there's a space for it if you quote and take it.

(For the record, Quadrax is better than Quazatron though :-p)

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:29 pm
by MatGubbins
A Alter Ego
B Buzzsaw+ by Jason J Railton
C Castlevania: Spectral Interlude by Rewind Team
D
E EFMB
F Fire 'N Ice by n-Discovery
G Gravibots - Denis Grachev
H Hobbit 128 by Melbourne House/Community
I
J
K Karlos und Schatze der Azteken
L Los Amores de Brunilda
M Metal Man by Oleg Origin
N
O
P Prince Of Persia by Magic Soft [2]
Q Quadrax
R
S Sword of Ianna by RetroWorks
T That sinking feeling
U
V Vallation by Tardis Remakes
W
X X=Y=Z by Bob's Stuff
Y Yumiko in the Haunted Mansion
Z ZX Football Manager 2005
# <-- numeric

Bunging Gravibots in there

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:36 pm
by R-Tape
Ta, missed that one and totally agree!

Ooh just had a thought, what a shame Bouncing Bomb Redux begins with B...

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:16 am
by Joefish
Einar Saukas wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:43 pm
R-Tape wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:56 pmEFMB? Nay El Stompo?
I also prefer El Stompo!
Me too!

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:57 am
by PeteProdge
Einar Saukas wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:40 pm
PeteProdge wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:08 pmH Hobbit 128 by Melbourne House/Kayamon
Now I have a complain...

About 20 people participated in this project. Instead, you are crediting someone that didn't collaborate on anything, then released an unauthorized build that didn't respect any of the conditions requested by Veronika Megler either. :(
My apologies, didn't know the full background behind Hobbit 128, did a very brief web search to get the credit, got it wrong. Sorry.

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 12:31 pm
by Einar Saukas
PeteProdge wrote: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:57 am
Einar Saukas wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:40 pm Now I have a complain...

About 20 people participated in this project. Instead, you are crediting someone that didn't collaborate on anything, then released an unauthorized build that didn't respect any of the conditions requested by Veronika Megler either. :(
My apologies, didn't know the full background behind Hobbit 128, did a very brief web search to get the credit, got it wrong. Sorry.
Apologies accepted, thanks!

About this game, I recently sorted out implementing more detailed location descriptions. I'm still busy with other priorities but, sometime next year, I plan to get back organizing this effort and finish the project properly!

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:14 pm
by bob_fossil
The link to Karlos und Schatze der Azteken in the cumulative list of games is broken as it has '...' in it.

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 11:03 pm
by hitm4n
R-Tape wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:19 pm
hitm4n wrote: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:55 pm I would like to protest on Q. Has to be Quazatron.
Quazatron was released in 1986, so belongs in this thread, and there's a space for it if you quote and take it.

(For the record, Quadrax is better than Quazatron though :-p)
Nah, Quazatron is so good, it should go on both lists :)

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:51 am
by Ralf
This thread seems to went a bit into stagnation so let me finish the job.

I said before:
W: Wanderers. Chained in the dark Great,big RPG game
I: Invasion of the Zombie Monsters Cool, big pretty, colourful action from Spain

For the rest

D
I choose Doom from Russian group Digital reality. Yes, unfortunately it is just one level demo but these guys deserve some respect for doing it
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=12817

The current screenshot in database comes from some early version and doesn't make justice to the game. In reality it looks like this:
[youtube]https://youtu.be/3v7cFGneuaw[/youtube]

G
Someone said Gravibots
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=30087

I'll continue in next post...

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:12 pm
by Ralf
J
Well not much choice. Shame on me as I'll propose my own game :oops: but I honestly believe it's pretty decent. So it would be Janosik. Feel free to change:
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=30035

N
Again not much choice. I choose arcade adventure from Spain called "Nelo & Quqo and the Last Butifarreisson" Wow, what a name ;)
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=25055

O
Operation Red Refrigerator - big, pretty Dizzy-like Russian game
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=12981

R
Rough Justice - maze shooter from Jonathan Cauldwell
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=13300

U
I choose UFO 2: Devils of Abyss
I suppose you don't know this game. It's in Russian only. To run it you have to go through several menus in Russian. It's a strategy so there is a lot of options and buttons to learn. But if you get through it all you have a great strategy game where you manage a team of commandos fighting against aliens in an isometric view. If you lived in the 90s (and I suppose that you lived ;) ) you should know UFO1 and UFO2 on PC. They were big megagames in its time. And it is a great faithful remake of original on a much inferior machine.

There is also first part on Spectrum, remake of UFO1 but it's actually a shooter disguised as strategy where you control just one man. Some my voice goes to part 2

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=13107

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:23 pm
by Ralf
And here's the full list:
Uff, that was tiring, almost felt like real office work, making this list, inserting all these titles and links ;)

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:01 pm
by R-Tape
I won't argue with Janosik if you promise to do a new version with a flamboyant Rastanesque swish of the axe :-p

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:08 pm
by PeteProdge
Ralf wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:23 pm And here's the full list:
Uff, that was tiring, almost felt like real office work, making this list, inserting all these titles and links ;)
Er, not all that full, you've missed the last 'letter'!

But thanks for sorting that.

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:16 pm
by Ralf
Er, not all that full, you've missed the last 'letter'!

But thanks for sorting that.
Upsss, sorry.
Again it's limited choice here with no obvious winner. So after some search it would be a Russian Dizzy-like game: 48 Irons
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=12735

A Alter Ego
B Buzzsaw+ by Jason J Railton
C Castlevania: Spectral Interlude by Rewind Team
D Doom
E EFMB
F Fire 'N Ice by n-Discovery
G Gravibots - Denis Grachev
H Hobbit 128 by Melbourne House/Community
I Invasion of the Zombie Monsters
J Janosik
K Karlos und Schatze der Azteken
L Los Amores de Brunilda
M Metal Man by Oleg Origin
N Nelo & Quqo and the Last Butifarreisson
O Operation Red Refrigerator
P Prince Of Persia by Magic Soft [2]
Q Quadrax
R Rough Justice
S Sword of Ianna by RetroWorks
T That sinking feeling
U UFO 2: Devils of Abbyss
V Vallation by Tardis Remakes
W Wanderers. Chained in the dark
X X=Y=Z by Bob's Stuff
Y Yumiko in the Haunted Mansion
Z ZX Football Manager 2005
# 48 Irons

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Er, not all that full, you've missed the last 'letter'!

But thanks for sorting that.
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Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:18 pm
by R-Tape
[mention]PeteProdge[/mention] was going to do a poll per letter for both classic and new releases. Shall we only do that for classic releases (less work for Pete), and continue the new games as a discussion?

Having said that, I don't know how we would change the letters without a poll, but I'll make these alternative suggestions anyway:

O - On reflection. The only text adventure here. Lee Tonks gives a bit of detail in the instructions and it shows that it was a labour of love and an attempt to do something original.

T - Tales of Grupp. That sinking feeling is good, but I don't think it's best of the lot.

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:08 pm
by Ralf
Somehow I totally missed the release of "On reflecion". And all text games seem to be the same until you start playing them more deeply and feel the difference in story and narration ;)

Sure, change it if you feel that it's good and deserves it.

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 4:48 pm
by R-Tape
I'll see if anyone else concurs first.

There are a couple of text adventures by Colin Woodcock that are at least as impressive, but they have letters that can't be argued with.

Blink and Floarea Soarelui. Inspired writing, especially as you have so little space to work with, and very different from your run of the mill fantasy or space adventure. The downside is that, after looking at the solution to one of them, I can't imagine ever being able to complete a text adventure unless I took 6 weeks off work to concentrate on it.

Aha - if we translate Floarea Soarelui from Romanian to our lingua franca we get Sunflower. Anyone object if I bump Sword of IANNA for this?

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 5:06 pm
by Einar Saukas
Ralf wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:12 pm J
Well not much choice. Shame on me as I'll propose my own game :oops: but I honestly believe it's pretty decent. So it would be Janosik.
Or Jaws :)

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 6:36 pm
by PeteProdge
R-Tape wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:18 pm @PeteProdge was going to do a poll per letter for both classic and new releases. Shall we only do that for classic releases (less work for Pete), and continue the new games as a discussion?
I think so, yeah.

To conclude: On Monday, I'll be asking everyone for their favourite classic Speccy game-beginning-with-A for about seven days. Then we do a poll the following Monday...

Re: The A-Z of the best Speccy games (modern: post-1993)

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:57 pm
by PeterJ
I'm loving 'Karlos und Schatze der Azteken' by the way. Its brilliant!