Cryptic Quiz Guide

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Re: Cryptic Quiz Guide

Post by MatGubbins » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:56 pm

Rorthron wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:04 pm
MatGubbins wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 10:50 am
Just waiting for 'Ms Hannigan plays a tree' (6)
OK, I'm stumped. I looked up Miss Hannigan and learned she is the villain in Annie. So is "Ms Hannigan plays" ANNIES? Or is "plays" an anagram signifier and it's an anagram of her first name AGATHA. But neither of these gets me anywhere near "a tree" or has anything to do with Spectrums or the thread. So I am clearly barking up the wrong tree.
It's not a Spectrum game unless the clue is extended to "Ms Hannigan plays a tree, in sequence" (6.7)
You can forget about the Ms bit it you want as it refers Hannigan as being female.

Not spectrum related...
5/8's of Italians turn slowly (5)
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Re: Cryptic Quiz Guide

Post by Rorthron » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:33 pm

MatGubbins wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:56 pm
5/8's of Italians turn slowly (5)
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I need to work on the other one.
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Re: Cryptic Quiz Guide

Post by AndyC » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:59 pm

MatGubbins wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:56 pm

It's not a Spectrum game unless the clue is extended to "Ms Hannigan plays a tree, in sequence" (6.7)
You can forget about the Ms bit it you want as it refers Hannigan as being female.
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Although I'll admit I had to look up a game title as that's one is a bit obscure....
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Re: Cryptic Quiz Guide

Post by Rorthron » Thu Dec 21, 2017 6:43 am

Cryptic Quiz Guide, Part 4

COMPOUND CLUES

In some clues the cryptic part involves linking a number of straight clues together. See these examples:

1. An idea: support a deformed man. [9]
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HUNCHBACK
The straight clue is "a deformed man". "An idea" is a HUNCH. "Support" is BACK.
2. Thin flat armour. [8]
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GAUNTLET
"Armour" is the straight clue. "Thin" is GAUNT. "Flat" is (slightly tenuously) LET. (If you rent a flat, it is a let.)
3. Rogue hip hop Green Onion. [11]
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RAPSCALLION
"Rogue" is the straight clue. "Hip hop" is RAP. "Green Onion" is not a track by Booker T and the MGs, but SCALLION.
4. Kebabs handle a spinning wheel. [9]
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GYROSCOPE
GYROS ("kebabs"), plus COPE ("handle"). "A spinning wheel" is the straight clue.
5. Miss Peep beneath a cad! [7]
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BOUNDER
BO ("Miss Peep", ie Bo Peep from the nursery rhyme) plus UNDER ("beneath"). "Cad" is the straight clue.
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Re: Cryptic Quiz Guide

Post by Rorthron » Fri Dec 22, 2017 3:16 am

Cryptic Quiz Guide, Part 5

CONTAINERS

In container clues, one word is embedded in another. They are usually flagged with words meaning "contain" or "in".

For example:

1. Squad also caught in scheme. [7]
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PLATOON
"Squad" is the straight clue. "Caught in" indicates a container clue: TOO ("also") inside PLAN ("scheme"): PLA-TOO-N.
2. The Crash artist was filled with New Zealand excitement. [6]
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FRENZY.
"Excitement" is the straight clue. "Was filled with" signifies a container clue: NZ ("New Zealand") inside FREY ("the Crash artist"): FRE-NZ-Y.
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Re: Cryptic Quiz Guide

Post by Juan F. Ramirez » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:18 am

OMG! I'll never guess any! Too difficult for me! :?
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Re: Cryptic Quiz Guide

Post by Rorthron » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:22 pm

Cryptic Quiz Guide, Part 6

REVERSALS

In reversal clues, letters from the clue need to be written backwards. They can be indicated by words like “back”, “reflected”, “turned” or “going up” (the last one comes from vertical crossword clues).

Here is an example:

1. No lava erupted on legendary isle. [6]
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AVALON
"Legendary isle" is the straight clue. "On" is linking text. "Erupted" signals reversal. "No lava" backwards is AVALON.
This example is slightly different:

2. A web of corruption overturned a racquet sport. [6]
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TENNIS
"A racquet sport" is the straight clue. "Overturned" indicates reversal, but in this case not of the clue's letters themselves, but of a synonym: "a web of corruption" is SIN NET.
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Re: Cryptic Quiz Guide

Post by R-Tape » Sat Dec 23, 2017 1:46 pm

I remember #1 and it's easy when you know the answer. I managed to get #2 from the straight clue.
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I thought web of corruption had to be 'racket', so went down that blind alley.
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Re: Cryptic Quiz Guide

Post by Rorthron » Tue Dec 26, 2017 9:45 am

Cryptic Quiz Guide, Part 7

INITIALS

In this type of clue you take only the first letter of the words to get the answer. It is signalled with an expression like "initially", "at first glance" or "leaders".

For example:

That derrière is, at first glance, best one of the year. [5]
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BOOTY
"Derrière" is the straight clue. "At first glance" indicates only initial letters should be considered. The first letters of "best one of the year" give BOOTY.
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Re: Cryptic Quiz Guide

Post by Rorthron » Wed Dec 27, 2017 6:47 am

Cryptic Quiz Guide, Part 8

BITS-AND-PIECES

Bits-and-pieces clues require you to piece together various strings of letters to get to the answer.

Often the letters come from codes and abbreviations:

- standard abbreviations, like DR for "doctor", CO for "company";
- ‎chemical elements, such as CU from "copper";
- ‎Roman numerals, like X from "ten", V from "five";
- ‎compass points, eg N, S, W or E (usually indicated with the word "point");
- ‎other, eg the number "1" can signify the letter "I", "unknown" can mean X (as in algebra).

There are many more codes like this. These are just some of the more common ones. Googling "cryptic crossword guides" will take you to more comprehensive lists.

Another way you can get letters from bits-and-pieces clues is by taking them selectively from a clue word. Here are some of the ways this can happen:

- INITIALS. This was covered in part 7. Words like "initially" or "leaders" can indicate you should only consider the first letter of words.
- ‎ALTERNATE LETTERS. "Alternately", "odd", "even", etc mean you should take every other letter.
- ‎FIRST AND LAST LETTERS. Words like "edges" or "extreme" can indicate you should take the first and last letters of a word.
- ‎PARTS OF WORDS. "Almost", "part", "fraction", etc mean you should use only part of the word.

Usually the letters are then linked sequentially to make a word, but sometimes there can be other arrangements specified. If the arrangement is non-sequential, it will be signified by language in the clue. Some examples of non-sequential arrangements are below:

SUBTRACTIVE. This is a particularly important case. Words like "lacking" require letters to be taken away.

Consider this example, which is a modification of a clue by STeaM:

Canonised pigs lost one Roman wargame. [8]
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The answer is STONKERS.
"Canonised" gives you ST, the abbreviation for "saint". "Pigs" are OINKERS. "Lost one Roman" means to take away I (the Roman
numeral 1). "Wargame" is the straight clue.
CONTAINER. See part 5.

REVERSALS. See part 6.

Here are various examples of clues which use the bits-and-pieces approach.

1. The pagan doctor drove under the influence erratically. [5]
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DRUID
"The pagan" is the straight clue. "Doctor" is DR. "Drove under the influence" points to the abbreviation DUI. "Erratically" meams you have to rearrange the letters of DUI.
2. Gangster faces youth leader. [5]
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MUGSY
"Gangster" is the straight clue. "Faces" is MUGS. "Youth leader" is the first letter of "youth", which is Y.
3. The crème de la crème burned in the outskirts of Edgware. [5]
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ELITE
"The crème de la crème" is the straight clue. "Burned" is LIT. "The outskirts of Edware" means the first and last letters of Edgware: E and E. "In" means a container arrangement: LIT should be inserted between the two Es: E-LIT-E.
4. A celestial phenomenon finally drove one of five cattle. [7]
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EQUINOX
"A celestial phenomenon" is the straight clue. "Finally drove" means the last letter of "drove": E. "One of five" is a QUIN. "Cattle" is OX.
5. The homeless man almost sank his teeth into the short fellow.
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THE HOBBIT
"The homeless man" is THE HOBO. "Almost" means you should shorten this to "THE HOB". "Sank his teeth into" is BIT. "The short fellow" is the straight clue.
That's all, folks. I think I've covered enough in these tutorials. I hope it's been helpful to some of you. Now I have to find the time to come up with a new quiz....
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