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Yankee in Iraq was first released in 2016 wasn't it?

(A 2017 poll would be a great idea)
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A Yankee in Iraq? I'll add it to the list. ZXDB lists it as a 2016 game. Is that not correct?
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It is very encouraging to see so much activity with the Spectrum, so many good games and it seems that interest in the platform is actually increasing. If you had told me 10-15 years ago that so many new titles would have been released for the Specy I would have thought you nuts. Not just the amount but the quality of release.
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Rorthron wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:51 pm A Yankee in Iraq? I'll add it to the list. ZXDB lists it as a 2016 game. Is that not correct?
Nope. ZXDB keeps changing every now and then. Right now it lists the 2016 BASIC version only. The 2017 machine code version is missing. Last time I checked, both versions were listed with the loading screens missing. Before that, it linked to an outdated version as well. It’s kind of a mess. :D
Every man should plant a tree, build a house, and write a ZX Spectrum game.

Author of A Yankee in Iraq, a 50 fps shoot-’em-up—the first game to utilize the floating bus on the +2A/+3,
and zasm Z80 Assembler syntax highlighter.
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OK. I will make sure it is included in the list.

[mention]R-Tape[/mention], how can we get this fixed?

[mention]Ast A. Moore[/mention], can you give us the correct information to include for both versions, if we need it?
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Sure. Somebody send me a PM with a form to fill out.
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and zasm Z80 Assembler syntax highlighter.
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Ast A. Moore wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:11 pm
Rorthron wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:51 pmA Yankee in Iraq? I'll add it to the list. ZXDB lists it as a 2016 game. Is that not correct?
Nope. ZXDB keeps changing every now and then. Right now it lists the 2016 BASIC version only. The 2017 machine code version is missing. Last time I checked, both versions were listed with the loading screens missing. Before that, it linked to an outdated version as well. It’s kind of a mess. :D
Both BASIC and Assembly versions are available here, including their corresponding loading screens. I believe all these versions are up-to-date, if not then please let me know.

This page says "Original release year: 2016" because that's the release date of the first version, although later versions are dated 2017. This is the same way old WoS archive worked, see for instance here.

Makes sense?
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Einar Saukas wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:39 pm Make sense?
Well, no. The 2016 release is just a resurrected version of the BASIC game I originally wrote in 1992. The 2017 version is a separate game written from scratch in machine code. Either make them two separate entries, or remove the BASIC version entirely.
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and zasm Z80 Assembler syntax highlighter.
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Ast A. Moore wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:38 pm
Einar Saukas wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:39 pmMake sense?
Well, no. The 2016 release is just a resurrected version of the BASIC game I originally wrote in 1992. The 2017 version is a separate game written from scratch in machine code. Either make them two separate entries, or remove the BASIC version entirely.
OK, I will change it in the next ZXDB release.

Just notice that, when you released your Assembly version, you announced it as an improved version of your original game. You even kept the same tittle. Thus you made it sound as a new version of the same game, instead of a separate game. Even your reply here refers to "the 2016 release" and "the 2017 version", as if different versions of a game, not different games. IIRC your first Assembly release was called v1.01 to distinguish from your BASIC version 1.0. The current ZXDB information simply reflects this information.

However, since you prefer separate entries, I will change everything accordingly. Would it be OK if I named them "A Yankee in Iraq" and "A Yankee in Iraq 2017"?
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Einar Saukas wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:37 pm IIRC your first Assembly release was called v1.01 to distinguish from your BASIC version 1.0. The current ZXDB information simply reflects this information.
Ah, I see now where the confusion comes from. No, the first MC release was a 1.0, and the BASIC version never actually had a version number.
A quick overview. After I dug up my 1992 BASIC game, I cleaned it up, added the missing assets, and released it in August 2016. Had no plans of revisiting it it.

Months later, however, in early 2017, I decided to redo the whole thing in assembly. Released that on March 15, 2017 (v1.0.0). Made five updates to it since then.

Not sure where the “BASIC is v1.0.0, assembly is v1.0.1” originated, really.
Einar Saukas wrote: Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:37 pmHowever, since you prefer separate entries, I will change everything accordingly. Would it be OK if I named them "A Yankee in Iraq" and "A Yankee in Iraq 2017"?
Sweet, thanks! I’d put 2017 in parenthesis, though, A Yankee in Iraq (2017), as it’s not part of the title. And, if possible, the in-game screen for it should represent the latest version, as well.
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and zasm Z80 Assembler syntax highlighter.
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To return to the original topic, please let me know of any other errors or omissions in the list of candidates for best game of 2017. I will put together a poll shortly.
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Should the 'Loading Screen' category also include things like redrawn loading screens posted to ZXArt, as well as the screens of game releases?
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Joefish wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:37 pm Should the 'Loading Screen' category also include things like redrawn loading screens posted to ZXArt, as well as the screens of game releases?
Yes, I think so. What do others think?

We'll have to put a list together of redrawn loading screens.
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I agree, it'd be a shame not to include those rather splendid redone SCREEN$.
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Does the ZXArt database search normally work? I am getting 404 errors.
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Works for me, a search of 2017 titles.

https://zxart.ee/eng/graphics/database/ ... pe:zxitem/

I guess we just pick the ones associated with games from ^this^ lot?
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R-Tape wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:19 pm Works for me, a search of 2017 titles.

https://zxart.ee/eng/graphics/database/ ... pe:zxitem/

I guess we just pick the ones associated with games from ^this^ lot?
I can see these results, but still get 404 errors if I run the search myself.

Can you run it again, including the Alternative Loading Screen tag?
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R-Tape wrote: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:52 pm Here we go:

https://zxart.ee/eng/graphics/database/ ... em/page:1/

Ouch there's a lot.
A lot fewer than in the first list!

I'll start going through them.
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So for loading screens I will add the following which are tagged in ZXArt as Alternate Loading Screens and were uploaded in 2017. I have excluded one 8x1 attribute screen.

Xelda 1: Quest for the Golden Apple
Blade Runner
Dragontorc
Maziacs
New Zealand Story, The
Kane
Football Manager
S.T.U.N. Runner
Soviet Fighter MiG 29
Zukinox
Backpackers Guide to the Universe
Heavy on the Magick
Gazza II
Wacky Races
Chuckie Egg
Yie Ar Kung-Fu
Convoy Raider
Doomsday Castle
3D Tunnel
Kong
Infiltrator
Jumping Jack
Ant Attack
Renegade
Wheelie
Styx
UGH
Zzoom
River Raid
Road Frog
Rescue
Curse of Sherwood
Pyramid, The
Arcadia
Stop the Express
Pheenix
Aventura Espacial, La
Super Cup Football
Ghost Hunters
Arcade Flight Simulator
Race Against Time, The
Batman - The Caped Crusader
En busca de Mortadelo
Crystal Kingdom Dizzy
B.C. Bill
Powerplay
Dragon's Lair II - Escape From Singes Castle
Bubble Dizzy
Mission Omega
Great Gurianos
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Zybex
Impossible Mission
Spitfire 40
Viaje al Centro de la Tierra
Henrietta's Book of Spells

I will add the screens themselves when it comes to voting. I think I might set up the other polls first (Best Game/Graphics/Sound/Gameplay), as the loading screen one is going to take ages.
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I am planning to set up posts next week for Best Game/Graphics/Sound/Gameplay of 2017. Is everyone happy with those categories? I'll do Best Loading Screen later, as that will take quite some time to put together.

The list of candidates is as listed earlier in the thread, plus Castle of Sorrows.
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Rorthron wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:53 am Best Game/Graphics/Sound/Gameplay
Is this going to be 4 separate polls? If so I'm not sure gameplay is going to work, there might be too much crossover (or voting fatigue) with Best Game.

The rest work fine for me.
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I'll ditch gameplay, then.
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