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Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:40 pm
by Rorthron
Black Hawk cover (Sparklers re-release)
Image of RAF Harrier GR3 firing SNEB rockets
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:42 pm
by Rorthron
Sinbad and the Golden Ship cover
Detail
Title drawing for Chapter Eight of How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:43 pm
by Rorthron
Some more possible copies, though I haven't identified the source images.
Super Shuffle cover
Michael Jackson?
1st Division Manager
Clockwise from top left: Brian Clough, Graeme Souness, Gary Lineker, John Barnes and Paul Gascoigne?
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:54 pm
by R-Tape
Nick wrote: ↑Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:22 pm
Great find! I had no idea. I've gone and bought the book—I don't care how good it is.
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:57 pm
by R-Tape
Title drawing for Chapter Eight of How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way
I remember that book and picture well! Presumably the sword wielding chap in a turban is the stock Boris Vallejo?
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:58 pm
by R-Tape
When I saw the Harrier pics, my first thought was "anyone for tenous?", but the fireflashes on the guns match perfectly. What was the image source?
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2019 11:21 pm
by Juan F. Ramirez
R-Tape wrote:
I've gone and bought the book—I don't care how good it is.
You can't turn the first page
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:22 am
by Rorthron
R-Tape wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:58 pm
When I saw the Harrier pics, my first thought was "anyone for tenous?", but the fireflashes on the guns match perfectly. What was the image source?
Yes. The artist modified the front (nose, vents and cockpit), but copied the rest (fuselage, wings, tails, rocket launches) exactly. As you say, even the fire flashes are identical.
You can see it in this transparent overlay:
I found the image on Google. I don't know where the original artist got it from.
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:23 am
by Rorthron
R-Tape wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 10:57 pm
Presumably the sword wielding chap in a turban is the stock Boris Vallejo?
I expect so. I haven't worked out which image, though.
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 8:13 am
by Rorthron
Hunchback cover
Hunchback UK arcade flyer
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:08 am
by toot_toot
Rorthron wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:42 pm
Sinbad and the Golden Ship cover
Detail
Title drawing for Chapter Eight of How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way
Also used for the Mastertronic M.A.D. Flash Gordon cover - Ming the Merciless’ head (on my phone so cant attach the image)
Looks like it’s the same artist doing both covers
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:31 am
by Rorthron
Rorthron wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:45 am
And another one:
Rambo still
Rapid Fire cover
A closer fit is this image:
Rambo still
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 2:16 am
by Rorthron
Juan F. Ramirez wrote: ↑Sun Feb 17, 2019 1:51 pm
Not artwork, but this loading screen of "Chambers of Horrors” by Omega Software reminds me of certain character used by a great rock band in their covers back in the 80s...
It looks like it was based on the cover of Piece of Mind (1983).
Detail:
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 10:23 am
by Juan F. Ramirez
Exactly, that's it
They had a bunch of great LP covers, by the way.
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2019 10:53 pm
by Rorthron
Dracula, by CRL (1986)
Still from Nosferatu movie (1922), showing shadow of Graf Orlock on stairs
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:48 am
by djnzx48
Did many games have those age ratings? I don't believe I've seen one on a Spectrum game before.
Maybe that could be some useful information to store in the database.
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:57 am
by djnzx48
Rorthron wrote: ↑Fri Mar 15, 2019 5:42 pm
Title drawing for Chapter Eight of How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way
This also looks like it was used for the rotozoomer part in Second Reality.
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:09 am
by Juan F. Ramirez
djnzx48 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:48 am
Did many games have those age ratings? I don't believe I've seen one on a Spectrum game before.
I've obly seen that logo in these CRL horror text adventure series (Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman and another one IIRC).
Was is something imposed by the industry (something like the current PEGI) or by the company itself?
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:53 am
by djnzx48
I just found this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_B ... _and_scope
In December 1986, the first computer game to be certified by the BBFC was an illustrated text adventure called Dracula, based on the Bram Stoker novel, published by CRL, the game received a 15 certificate. The first computer game to receive an 18 certificate, on 11 December 1987, was another illustrated text adventure called Jack the Ripper, also by CRL, which dealt with the infamous real life murders in Victorian London. The horror in both games came through largely in their detailed prose. Had the game publishers reprinted the games' text in book form, it would not have carried a certificate, as the BBFC has no oversight over print media. Both games had numerous certificate stickers all over their covers to emphasise to parents and retailers that they were not intended for children, as computer games carrying BBFC certificates were previously unheard of.
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:23 am
by StooB
Juan F. Ramirez wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:09 am
Was is something imposed by the industry (something like the current PEGI) or by the company itself?
CRL wanted them certified for the publicity.
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015 ... video-game
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:09 pm
by Juan F. Ramirez
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2019 10:45 pm
by Alessandro
Who knows. One thing is for sure, coal power stations look pretty much the same everywhere
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:32 pm
by Juan F. Ramirez
One of works of the excellent artist Ralph McQuarrie, probably the best Star Wars illustrator, shows a far Mos Eisley:
When I first saw next inlay I couldn't avoid thinking of the above picture:
The unknown game artist probably was inspired by McQuarrie art when drew the far city on the plain.
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:22 pm
by Rorthron
I suggested before that the cover of Movie looked like it was influenced by Casablanca. Actually it looks more like a direct copy of a different Bogart film, Dark Passage (which I misidentified in my previous post)
Movie cover
Still of Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall in Dark Passage (1947)
Here are the side-by-side details:
The head of the detective has been completely redrawn, and there are some minor differences, which could be changes by Bob Wakelin or could mean the source image he used was a different frame from the same scene. But to me the resemblance seems quite good, especially of Lauren Bacall, so I think there is the good chance this (or something similar from Dark Passage) was the source image.
Re: Game art copied from elsewhere
Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:30 pm
by Rorthron
Here is another Bacall image from Dark Passage, which is a slightly closer fit.
