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Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 4:15 pm
by clebin
toot_toot wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:08 am The directors at Ocean owned a percentage of US Gold when it was setup and helped them with the early Spectrum conversions (Denton Designs were ex Imagine staff, so had a strong relationship with Ocean). Interestingly, US Gold created the Go! Label to try and prevent Ocean getting any royalties, claiming it was a completely different label to US Gold, but in the end US Gold had to pay out anyway.
Interesting, I didn't know that. I'm really not a fan of US Gold - most of their games are incredibly mediocre and one-dimensional. I used to wonder why they never made it big on the 16-bits, but looking back it's because they just weren't good enough.

One of US Gold's better games, Gauntlet, was developed by Gremlin of course, who were eventually bought by Infogrames along with Ocean. How Infogrames ended up bigger than both Ocean and Gremlin is still a mystery to me. It must've been that mega-hit Stir Crazy Featuring Bobo...

(*edit: I’m exaggerating for effect with Stir Crazy - they did have some good games, but I never saw them as being in the top division)

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:15 pm
by jdanddiet
Along that theme, number 39 today is...
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Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:05 pm
by Matt_B
Beach Head is a bit of a mixed bag to me. I liked the idea of a collection of strung together minigames but the overall quality varies a lot. The air and sea battles are good, as is the tank drive up the beach, but the minefield and the fortress both let the side down. I suppose you can just skip the former entirely though.

The C64 version feels slicker overall, but the Spectrum port was OK and kept the gameplay mostly intact.

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:57 pm
by Morkin
Beach Head never grabbed me at all, but Spy Hunter was decent fairly simple game but enjoyable fast action.

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:50 am
by toot_toot
I loved Beach Head! Although it reminded me of the risk of buying games in 84/85, the reviews were always a month or two after the games were in the shops and you’d buy a game based on either the interesting looking cover, or the fact it was from the same label as a game that you really liked. Somehow, I thought that if Beach Head and Bruce Lee were good, then all games from US Gold must be good, right?

Wrong! Buck Rogers was really dire and the Spectrum version of Blue Max was nowhere near as good as the C64 one they had on demonstration in the shop!!!

But Tapper, Raid Over Moscow and Spy Hunter were brilliant, yet Flak was really poor. Just goes to show how hit and miss they were with the early conversions. I wish someone would do those games justice and make new ones!

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:45 pm
by blucey
Beach Head was one of the first games I got. It was part of They Sold a Million which had Daley Thompson's Decathlon (good), Jet Set Willy (good) and Sabre Wulf (very bad). Beach Head felt like a really average game in terms of presentation compared to those but it ended up being good fun.

Raid Over Moscow was better. I expect to see that in the top 40 somewhere.

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:29 pm
by jdanddiet
No.38 today is
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Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:30 pm
by jdanddiet
blucey wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:45 pm Beach Head was one of the first games I got. It was part of They Sold a Million which had Daley Thompson's Decathlon (good), Jet Set Willy (good) and Sabre Wulf (very bad). Beach Head felt like a really average game in terms of presentation compared to those but it ended up being good fun.

Raid Over Moscow was better. I expect to see that in the top 40 somewhere.
Never played raid over Moscow sorry to say

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:44 pm
by blucey
It is worth a look.

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:20 am
by Juan F. Ramirez
jdanddiet wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:30 pm
Never played raid over Moscow sorry to say
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Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:59 pm
by jdanddiet
No 37 today is budget legend Knight Tyme

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:08 pm
by jdanddiet
No 36 today


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Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:04 am
by Matt_B
Starstrike and Starglider are both great. The only thing I'd hold against them is that they've both got even more technically impressive sequels. You're probably better off playing Starglider 2 on one of the 16-bit platforms though.

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:50 am
by blucey
A bit like the Ultimate games, I always felt like Starstrike 2 and Starglider were more technically impressive than they were fun.

Starstrike 1 had a bit of that Star Wars coin-op feel and was nicely playable from what I remember. Not played it in 30+ years though!

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:45 pm
by jdanddiet
Take a deep breath...no.35 today:-


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Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:05 pm
by blucey
Manic Miner is solid. Still playable, absolutely iconic visuals.

That level with the rays of light was a bit much though. It's not like Manic Miner needed to get harder at that point. But yeah, a really decent and tidy game. Not a personal fave but hard to dislike.

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:42 pm
by Morkin
My guess based on this is that JSW will be higher in the list... :)

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:06 pm
by RWAC
jdanddiet wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2020 6:45 pm Take a deep breath...no.35 today:-


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Never heard of it!

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:33 pm
by jdanddiet
Morkin wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:42 pm My guess based on this is that JSW will be higher in the list... :)
Possibly.

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:33 pm
by Matt_B
blucey wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2020 2:05 pm Manic Miner is solid. Still playable, absolutely iconic visuals.

That level with the rays of light was a bit much though. It's not like Manic Miner needed to get harder at that point. But yeah, a really decent and tidy game. Not a personal fave but hard to dislike.
To be fair, it is the second to last screen, and you'd already made it past the pixel perfect timed jumps through The Warehouse by that point. Well, unless you were using the cheat code, I suppose, as that was how I first got to see the later screens.

Anyway, I guess it's downhill from here for the list. :)

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:54 pm
by jdanddiet
34 today


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33 also today


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Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:25 pm
by jdanddiet
Number 32 today is


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Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:58 pm
by blucey
Starquake did nothing for me.

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:58 pm
by Matt_B
I tend to see Starquake as a jazzed up Underwurlde. Not being constantly bounced around by the monsters is a big plus, and the additional game mechanics mostly add to the experience, even if it wasn't the most original idea at the time.

That's as opposed to Wizard's Lair, which is a jazzed up Atic Atac, but where most of the changes to the gameplay are for the worse.

Re: Top 100 ZX Spectrum Games

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:16 pm
by clebin
I can see why people hate Underwurlde, and why they might go for Starquake instead.

Not me though. I'll always choose Underwurlde over Starquake, even though it's really annoying.