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Number 28

Now we're talking!

Good luck finding 27 better games!

I'm now assuming the list is in random order because this is the best Speccy game ever made.

blucey wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:48 pm I'm now assuming the list is in random order because this is the best Speccy game ever made.

I think there's a bit of waggle room between it, the Rebelstar games and the Chaos ones but you'd definitely want at least one of them in the top five.

My Gollop preference/order (this isn't my actual top 5 but all great games!):

1. Chaos
2. Laser Squad
3. Rebelstar
4. Rebelstar II
5. Lords of Chaos

Morkin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:47 pm My Gollop preference/order (this isn't my actual top 5 but all great games!):

1. Chaos
2. Laser Squad
3. Rebelstar
4. Rebelstar II
5. Lords of Chaos

I'd probably go

1 Rebelstar 2
2 Rebelstar
3 Lords of Chaos
4 Laser Squad
5 Chaos

I think Lords of Chaos is extremely underated. It does need a few more levels though. I'm also rating these as single player games as that's how I play them nowadays.

I noticed that a couple of you had Rebelstar 2 avatars and therefore this would be your number one favourite game in your top 100 list of ZX Spectrum games, which I'm looking forward to seeing

Mind you, my avatar is Rex and he's languishing all the way down at number 62 on my list. He is one sexy rhinosapien though.

jdanddiet wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:30 pm Number 28

I must admit that, dare I say it, I've never enjoyed any games like this on the Speccy, or an other computer/console

stupidget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:24 am

jdanddiet wrote: ↑Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:30 pm Number 28

I must admit that, dare I say it, I've never enjoyed any games like this on the Speccy, or an other computer/console

They're not for everyone.

As I see it's confession time, I must admit I've never played any Gollop game back in the day

Juan F. Ramirez wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:00 am As I see it's confession time, I must admit I've never played any Gollop game back in the day

I've never enjoyed any pixel-perfect-jumping games like Manic Miner and family on the Speccy, or an other computer/console.

stupidget wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 9:24 am I must admit that, dare I say it, I've never enjoyed any games like this on the Speccy, or an other computer/console

Juan F. Ramirez wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:00 am As I see it's confession time, I must admit I've never played any Gollop game back in the day

+3code wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:13 am I've never enjoyed any pixel-perfect-jumping games like Manic Miner and family on the Speccy, or an other computer/console.

I never enjoyed the 1978 remake of Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Number 27 today is

Update of the games so far

http://www.wizwords.net/top-100-spectrum-games

+3code wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:13 am

Juan F. Ramirez wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 11:00 am As I see it's confession time, I must admit I've never played any Gollop game back in the day

I've never enjoyed any pixel-perfect-jumping games like Manic Miner and family on the Speccy, or an other computer/console.

I also never played a Gollop game back in the day and I got to admit that I don't enjoy that genre of game either. The first one I played ever was Laser Squad and that was only 3 weeks ago when I noticed how high it sits on the charts. I didn't find it fun but figured I was not playing it correctly. In an attempt to "enjoy" the genre, I played Rebelstar for the first time yesterday and still didn't find it fun. I haven't given up yet...

jdanddiet wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:12 pm Number 27 today is

Great game.

RWAC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:02 am Great game.

Too great to be the 27th, IMO. It's 5th in my top 100.

cmal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:22 pm I also never played a Gollop game back in the day and I got to admit that I don't enjoy that genre of game either. The first one I played ever was Laser Squad and that was only 3 weeks ago when I noticed how high it sits on the charts. I didn't find it fun but figured I was not playing it correctly. In an attempt to "enjoy" the genre, I played Rebelstar for the first time yesterday and still didn't find it fun. I haven't given up yet...

The first time I played a similar game was on PC, UFO Enemy Unknown, really really good, I enjoyed more than other games like Dune 2, C & C or Warcraft. So when I discovered there were similar stuff on the Spectrum (with the logic limitations) I was really amazed. The problem is, as in other cases, that you first play a more advanced version, then the Spectrum one.

I really like Saboteur. It was like getting a souped-up version of Bruce Lee - itself a pretty good game - at the time, and I think it's held up even better. Having regenerating health was truly before its time, for instance.

Juan F. Ramirez wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:13 am

cmal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 24, 2020 10:22 pm I also never played a Gollop game back in the day and I got to admit that I don't enjoy that genre of game either. The first one I played ever was Laser Squad and that was only 3 weeks ago when I noticed how high it sits on the charts. I didn't find it fun but figured I was not playing it correctly. In an attempt to "enjoy" the genre, I played Rebelstar for the first time yesterday and still didn't find it fun. I haven't given up yet...

The first time I played a similar game was on PC, UFO Enemy Unknown, really really good, I enjoyed more than other games like Dune 2, C & C or Warcraft. So when I discovered there were similar stuff on the Spectrum (with the logic limitations) I was really amazed. The problem is, as in other cases, that you first play a more advanced version, then the Spectrum one.

You probably already knew this but UFO Enemy Unknown was written by Julian Gollop.
To my eternal shame, I've still never played it.

Juan F. Ramirez wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:05 am

RWAC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:02 am Great game.

Too great to be the 27th, IMO. It's 5th in my top 100.

Definitely a top 20 game, maybe even top 10.
I liked the sequel too, but the guards were too hard to kill making it a case of having to run from every encounter.

The thing about UFO: Enemy Unknown is that there's a whole extra strategic aspect to the game in which you build your base, research and manufacture technology and deploy various craft. Once you go on a mission though, it's very similar to the Rebelstar and Laser Squad games.

I love the look and atmosphere of Saboteur but I cannot stand the combat at all.

I barely played any of the later Gollop games. I tried Lords of Chaos and got nowhere with it. I think I had some fun with Laser Squad on the Amiga maybe but never really put much time in.

Never played UFO/XCOM. I know I'd probably like them but for me it's a bit like Civilization. I absolutely love the very first one but I always felt like that was my limit in terms of complexity. It was easy to understand and the graphics didn't get in the way. Civ 2 looked a mess to me with its isometric graphics.

It's like that. Rebelstar 1 and 2 and Chaos were simple but deep. I don't need any extra gameplay mechanics on that.

The modern day equivalent for me is Into The Breach which is the best game on Nintendo Switch.

Best game ever: Laser Squad. On non-Spectrum/Timex computer, I only played Civilization, Dune, Age of Empires, and of course, UFO...