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Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:05 am
by Rorthron
The Neverending Story - Renato Casaro
Gremlins - John Alvin
Big Trouble in Little China - Brian Bysouth

https://www.creativebloq.com/movies/rel ... s-41620121
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Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:21 am
by Rorthron
The Neverending Story II - Renato Casaro

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nev ... xt_Chapter
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Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:27 am
by Rorthron

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:32 am
by Rorthron
Hollywood Collection - Bob Wakelin (signature in bottom right)
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Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:38 am
by Rorthron
Ghostbusters - Michael C Gross
Ghostbusters II - Michael C Gross

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/ ... -the-logo/
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Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:54 am
by Rorthron
The cover art for Licence to Kill is attributed to David Rowe in the archive, but it is the same as the UK movie poster. The poster is a composite of photographs and painting designed by Robin Behling. So I think David Rowe should be replaced with Robin Behling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_to_Kill

https://www.vintagemovieposters.co.uk/s ... ie-poster/
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Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:30 am
by Rorthron
Short Circuit - the background image is a retouched version of John Alvin's movie poster, with a photograph superimposed on it (I suspect by Steve Blower). So I suppose John Alvin should have a cover art credit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_C ... 1986_film)

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Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:09 am
by Rorthron

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:10 am
by Juan F. Ramirez
Hehe, Mobygames is a true gold mine for this topic! :mrgreen:

And that's why I like SC database, it gives you the chance of search for additional info of every game in other DBs: WoS, Mobygames, ZX Art... with their corresponding link.

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am
by Einar Saukas
Rorthron wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:54 am The cover art for Licence to Kill is attributed to David Rowe in the archive, but it is the same as the UK movie poster. The poster is a composite of photographs and painting designed by Robin Behling. So I think David Rowe should be replaced with Robin Behling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_to_Kill

https://www.vintagemovieposters.co.uk/s ... ie-poster/
Does everybody agree?

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:46 am
by Einar Saukas
Rorthron wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:30 am Short Circuit - the background image is a retouched version of John Alvin's movie poster, with a photograph superimposed on it (I suspect by Steve Blower). So I suppose John Alvin should have a cover art credit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_C ... 1986_film)
Should we credit both Steve Blower and John Alvin for the inlay?

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:49 am
by Einar Saukas
I have just finished adding to ZXDB everything else posted in this thread (except for the 2 pending items above). Everything will appear in the next ZXDB update.

Thanks a lot to everyone's contributions!!!

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:30 am
by Rorthron
Einar Saukas wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:46 am
Rorthron wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:30 am Short Circuit - the background image is a retouched version of John Alvin's movie poster, with a photograph superimposed on it (I suspect by Steve Blower). So I suppose John Alvin should have a cover art credit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_C ... 1986_film)
Should we credit both Steve Blower and John Alvin for the inlay?
I don't think so.

1. Steve Blower is a guess, not confirmed. I think it's a good guess, but it doesn't meet the threshold of certainty that we've been applying elsewhere.
2. Whoever added the photograph was just making layout/paste-up changes. These sorts of changes are mostly very minor (eg adding a logo, a small amouny of airbrushing). We also honestly have very little hope of ever identifying who did them. It can be hard even to identify what layout changes have been made. I don't think we should include layout changes even when we can identify the person behind them (unless, of course, there is substantial new material created, eg new painting).

So I would suggest just including John Alvin.

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:32 am
by Rorthron
Einar Saukas wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:49 am I have just finished adding to ZXDB everything else posted in this thread (except for the 2 pending items above). Everything will appear in the next ZXDB update.
Thanks.

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:51 am
by Einar Saukas
Rorthron wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:54 amThe cover art for Licence to Kill is attributed to David Rowe in the archive,
I just checked. It was added to ZXDB based on this post:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=86&p=7366#p7366

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:36 am
by Juan F. Ramirez
Einar Saukas wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am
Rorthron wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:54 am The cover art for Licence to Kill is attributed to David Rowe in the archive, but it is the same as the UK movie poster. The poster is a composite of photographs and painting designed by Robin Behling. So I think David Rowe should be replaced with Robin Behling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_to_Kill

https://www.vintagemovieposters.co.uk/s ... ie-poster/
Does everybody agree?
In the official webpage of David Rowe A View to a Kill isn't included:

https://www.davidrowe.net/davidrowe-games.html

So I think it should be replaced.

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:34 am
by Rorthron
Einar Saukas wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:51 am
Rorthron wrote: Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:54 amThe cover art for Licence to Kill is attributed to David Rowe in the archive,
I just checked. It was added to ZXDB based on this post:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=86&p=7366#p7366
That post was based on a dump of my unchecked rough notes, which contained some errors that were corrected here. (It's a long story why it was not checked, but it should be the only post like that.) I'll check it properly.

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:54 am
by Rorthron
Juan F. Ramirez wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:36 am
Einar Saukas wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am Does everybody agree?
In the official webpage of David Rowe A View to a Kill isn't included:

https://www.davidrowe.net/davidrowe-games.html

So I think it should be replaced.
Somewhere on the site I think David Rowe acknowledges his is not a complete record. In any case we should be careful about the argumentum ex silentio on its own. I suggest we check this one, but I don't think this is enough on its own to warrant a correction.

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:10 am
by Juan F. Ramirez
When the inlay is the own film poster, I think we should appoint him as the game cover author. It seems clear this time.

A question is... why was Rowe initially included as the author?

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:17 am
by Rorthron
I can't find any trace in the forum of David Rowe being described as the artist for a View to a Kill.

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:24 am
by Rorthron
A View to a Kill is by Dan Gouzee, so the David Rowe mention seems to be another error.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_View_to_a_Kill
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Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:03 am
by Rorthron
OK. I have checked the David Rowe mentions in the "dodgy post" and have found no further errors. All bar 4 are on the author's website. Of the remaining four, two have David Rowe listed as the cover artist at Moby Games. That leaves two unconfirmed: one has already been corrected (Delta Charge); the other is Licence to Kill

Bounces CONFIRMED
The Sentinel CONFIRMED
Flying Shark CONFIRMED
Soft Aid CONFIRMED
Way of the Exploding Fist CONFIRMED
Frenzy CONFIRMED
Glass CONFIRMED
Dandy CONFIRMED
Infodroid CONFIRMED
Prodigy CONFIRMED
The Centurions: Power X Treme CONFIRMED
https://www.mobygames.com/game/zx-spect ... me/credits
Delta Charge ALREADY CHANGED TO OLIVER FREY
Dogfight: 2187 CONFIRMED
Hybrid CONFIRMED
I, Ball II CONFIRMED
Chubby Gristle CONFIRMED
Licensed to Kill ALREADY IDENTIFIED AS POSSIBLE ERROR
Continental Circus CONFIRMED
Tank Attack CONFIRMED
https://www.mobygames.com/game/zx-spect ... ck/credits

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Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:48 am
by Einar Saukas
Juan F. Ramirez wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:36 am
Einar Saukas wrote: Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am Does everybody agree?
In the official webpage of David Rowe A View to a Kill isn't included:

https://www.davidrowe.net/davidrowe-games.html

So I think it should be replaced.
What do you mean by "replaced"? There was no inlay credits for "A View to a Kill" in the archive, and nobody mentioned this game before you did.

Did I miss anything?

Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:22 pm
by Rorthron
I've been checking the Steinar Lund covers in the "dodgy post". Most can be confirmed definitively by the signature, the artist's website or the artist's Instagram. The only ones on the list that I have been unable to verify in this way are the following:

Gyron
I, Ball
3D Pool
Classic Adventure
Dragonsbane
Smugglers Cove
Blood 'n' Gutz
Gatecrasher
Cop Out
Scramble Spirits

These I have been able to confirm with reference to other sites, so they also seem correct.

The full verified list is below:

Starglider (poster) + @
Gyron @
I, Ball $ @
3D Pool (1990) $ @
QS Defenda * #
QS Asteroids * #
Classic Adventure $
Dragonsbane $
Smugglers Cove $
Xadom * # $
Boulderdash +
Blood 'n' Gutz $
Gatecrasher $
Fighting Warrior +
Gyroscope +
Codename: MAT II +
Riddlers Den #
Battle of the Planets *
Dynamite Dan *
Terror of the Deep +
Cop Out $
Frost Byte #
Stainless Steel #
Orbix the Terror Ball +
Mermaid Madness +
Jahangir Khan World Championship Squash +
Knuckle Busters *
Redhawk +
Kwah! + (blurred on SC can; visible on other scans)
Moon Strike + (only S visible; rest obscured)
Nigel Mansell’s Grand Prix +
Armageddon Man +
Mega Apocalypse +
Terramex +
Live and Let Die +
Hellfire Attack +
Pac-Mania +
APB $
Space Harrier II +
Total Eclipse +
Thunderbirds * #
Lords of Chaos + (signature partly covered in SC scan; visible on other scans)
Scramble Spirits $
Stunt Car Racer +
Manchester United +

* CONFIRMED ON ARTIST'S WEBPAGE
http://steinarlund.com/videogames-airbrush-artwork
# CONFIRMED BY ARTIST'S INSTAGRAM
https://www.instagram.com/steinar_lund/
+ CONFIRMED BY ARTIST'S SIGNATURE
$ CONFIRMED BY http://www.boxequalsart.com/steinarlundartistpage.html
@ CONFIRMED BY http://birdsanctuary.co.uk/artists/

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Re: Cover artists

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:43 pm
by richl
I can help with Scramble Spirits. Here's the bottom left of the manual...
Image
You can sort of make it out on the actual cover of the game but they slapped the SEGA logo over it. Likewise, it's slightly visible (when you know where to look) on the adverts in the mags too but they slapped a transparent text box over it.
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