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Re: Cover artists

Post by Einar Saukas » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:46 am

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Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:30 am
Short Circuit - the background image is a retouched version of John Alvin's movie poster, with a photograph superimposed on it (I suspect by Steve Blower). So I suppose John Alvin should have a cover art credit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_C ... 1986_film)
Should we credit both Steve Blower and John Alvin for the inlay?
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Re: Cover artists

Post by Einar Saukas » Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:49 am

I have just finished adding to ZXDB everything else posted in this thread (except for the 2 pending items above). Everything will appear in the next ZXDB update.

Thanks a lot to everyone's contributions!!!
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Re: Cover artists

Post by Rorthron » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:30 am

Einar Saukas wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:46 am
Rorthron wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 9:30 am
Short Circuit - the background image is a retouched version of John Alvin's movie poster, with a photograph superimposed on it (I suspect by Steve Blower). So I suppose John Alvin should have a cover art credit.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_C ... 1986_film)
Should we credit both Steve Blower and John Alvin for the inlay?
I don't think so.

1. Steve Blower is a guess, not confirmed. I think it's a good guess, but it doesn't meet the threshold of certainty that we've been applying elsewhere.
2. Whoever added the photograph was just making layout/paste-up changes. These sorts of changes are mostly very minor (eg adding a logo, a small amouny of airbrushing). We also honestly have very little hope of ever identifying who did them. It can be hard even to identify what layout changes have been made. I don't think we should include layout changes even when we can identify the person behind them (unless, of course, there is substantial new material created, eg new painting).

So I would suggest just including John Alvin.
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Re: Cover artists

Post by Rorthron » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:32 am

Einar Saukas wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:49 am
I have just finished adding to ZXDB everything else posted in this thread (except for the 2 pending items above). Everything will appear in the next ZXDB update.
Thanks.
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Re: Cover artists

Post by Einar Saukas » Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:51 am

Rorthron wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:54 am
The cover art for Licence to Kill is attributed to David Rowe in the archive,
I just checked. It was added to ZXDB based on this post:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=86&p=7366#p7366
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Re: Cover artists

Post by Juan F. Ramirez » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:36 am

Einar Saukas wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am
Rorthron wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:54 am
The cover art for Licence to Kill is attributed to David Rowe in the archive, but it is the same as the UK movie poster. The poster is a composite of photographs and painting designed by Robin Behling. So I think David Rowe should be replaced with Robin Behling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_to_Kill

https://www.vintagemovieposters.co.uk/s ... ie-poster/
Does everybody agree?
In the official webpage of David Rowe A View to a Kill isn't included:

https://www.davidrowe.net/davidrowe-games.html

So I think it should be replaced.
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Re: Cover artists

Post by Rorthron » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:34 am

Einar Saukas wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:51 am
Rorthron wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:54 am
The cover art for Licence to Kill is attributed to David Rowe in the archive,
I just checked. It was added to ZXDB based on this post:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=86&p=7366#p7366
That post was based on a dump of my unchecked rough notes, which contained some errors that were corrected here. (It's a long story why it was not checked, but it should be the only post like that.) I'll check it properly.
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Re: Cover artists

Post by Rorthron » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:54 am

Juan F. Ramirez wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:36 am
Einar Saukas wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 12:43 am
Rorthron wrote:
Sat Jan 19, 2019 7:54 am
The cover art for Licence to Kill is attributed to David Rowe in the archive, but it is the same as the UK movie poster. The poster is a composite of photographs and painting designed by Robin Behling. So I think David Rowe should be replaced with Robin Behling.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licence_to_Kill

https://www.vintagemovieposters.co.uk/s ... ie-poster/
Does everybody agree?
In the official webpage of David Rowe A View to a Kill isn't included:

https://www.davidrowe.net/davidrowe-games.html

So I think it should be replaced.
Somewhere on the site I think David Rowe acknowledges his is not a complete record. In any case we should be careful about the argumentum ex silentio on its own. I suggest we check this one, but I don't think this is enough on its own to warrant a correction.
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Re: Cover artists

Post by Juan F. Ramirez » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:10 am

When the inlay is the own film poster, I think we should appoint him as the game cover author. It seems clear this time.

A question is... why was Rowe initially included as the author?
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Re: Cover artists

Post by Rorthron » Sun Jan 20, 2019 9:17 am

I can't find any trace in the forum of David Rowe being described as the artist for a View to a Kill.
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