ZX Spectrum stuck before Sinclair copyright message.
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Re: ZX Spectrum stuck before Sinclair copyright message.
Yes! As already said, issues like this one I enjoyed very much. It is great training according my skills level. I am already a winner and he know it!
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Re: ZX Spectrum stuck before Sinclair copyright message.
I start with ULA, to other components continuity test and I found no continuity from A15 (cpu) to pin 27 (ula). Is that normal? The truth is that none of my spectrums has continuity in this line. Just asking to understand the schematic and the way that this line works.
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There should be continuity, definitely, but even if there isn’t, this shouldn’t affect the Spectrum running in 16K mode. Keep checking, though.Muttley Black wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 7:53 pm I found no continuity from A15 (cpu) to pin 27 (ula). Is that normal? The truth is that none of my spectrums has continuity in this line.
Every man should plant a tree, build a house, and write a ZX Spectrum game.
Author of A Yankee in Iraq, a 50 fps shoot-’em-up—the first game to utilize the floating bus on the +2A/+3,
and zasm Z80 Assembler syntax highlighter.
Author of A Yankee in Iraq, a 50 fps shoot-’em-up—the first game to utilize the floating bus on the +2A/+3,
and zasm Z80 Assembler syntax highlighter.
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Re: ZX Spectrum stuck before Sinclair copyright message.
A15 should be connected. A15 is used by the ULA in various internal functions including the address decoding.Muttley Black wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 7:53 pm
I start with ULA, to other components continuity test and I found no continuity from A15 (cpu) to pin 27 (ula). Is that normal? The truth is that none of my spectrums has continuity in this line. Just asking to understand the schematic and the way that this line works.
Do however watch out for errors in the various schematics for the ZX Spectrum. Apart from the ULA, cross check the function and the pin with a pin-out or datasheet. Also, on some boards, the data lines and address lines to the DRAM chips / multiplexer chips, you may find that some of the PCB tracks/connections have been swapped (compared to the schematic) so that it was easier to route the PCB tracks.
So of the known errors may be listed somewhere in the World of Spectrum forums. But finding them is, err, ‘fun’
Mark
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I do keep meaning to collate details of the errors on the schematics, but I never manage to find the time...
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Re: ZX Spectrum stuck before Sinclair copyright message.
- I resolder every joint on board
- All ULA databus to lower ram (pins 2,14) have continuity
- All ULA databus to R1-R8 have continuity. Also R1-R8 are in working order
- All R1-R8 to R9-R16 have continuity. Also R9-R16 are in working order
- Both resistor group "points" with ROM databus have continuity
- All ULA address bus +(dramwe) to Lower ram pins have continuity.
- Lower ram lines IC6 to IC3 have continuity
666 views on this thread. Is it a coincidence? i don't thing so!
How useful would be if i had an oscilloscope in this specific situation?
if I know how to use it, is another question?
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Re: ZX Spectrum stuck before Sinclair copyright message.
You could check the power rails and determine if there’s too much ripple on each. You could also examine digital signals and see if there are any irregularities. A data analyzer would be even more useful.Muttley Black wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 12:28 pm How useful would be if i had an oscilloscope in this specific situation?
Every man should plant a tree, build a house, and write a ZX Spectrum game.
Author of A Yankee in Iraq, a 50 fps shoot-’em-up—the first game to utilize the floating bus on the +2A/+3,
and zasm Z80 Assembler syntax highlighter.
Author of A Yankee in Iraq, a 50 fps shoot-’em-up—the first game to utilize the floating bus on the +2A/+3,
and zasm Z80 Assembler syntax highlighter.
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Re: ZX Spectrum stuck before Sinclair copyright message.
Wow this thread sounds like mine, gonna try the RAM test, did the OP ever find the issue?
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Re: ZX Spectrum stuck before Sinclair copyright message.
Not yet. Still faulty in my closet. I give it a try when I have time.
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Re: ZX Spectrum stuck before Sinclair copyright message.
This was my thought after reading the thread. Is that voltage regulator doing its job?Ast A. Moore wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 1:28 pmYou could check the power rails and determine if there’s too much ripple on each. You could also examine digital signals and see if there are any irregularities. A data analyzer would be even more useful.Muttley Black wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 12:28 pm How useful would be if i had an oscilloscope in this specific situation?
Also, have you checked your crysal/clock frequencies?
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Re: ZX Spectrum stuck before Sinclair copyright message.
The most useful tools when fault finding a ZX Spectrum are:
In terms of test ROMs, there are various types available, two of the best are this one and this one.
Mark
- A good quality multimeter
- Another ZX Spectrum of the same type to test any suspect chips
- A expansion interface containing a test ROM (the code in the ROM can run without any working RAM, but can still tell you what RAM faults it finds)
- A logic probe (preferably with a pulse detector)
- A logic analyser (an inexpensive 24 channel channel type is most useful, but you can also do a lot with 16 channel versions, but don’t bother with 8 channel versions)
In terms of test ROMs, there are various types available, two of the best are this one and this one.
Mark
Standby alert
“There are four lights!”
Step up to red alert. Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb
Looking forward to summer later in the year.
“There are four lights!”
Step up to red alert. Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb
Looking forward to summer later in the year.