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Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:50 pm
by Ast A. Moore
Slauri wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:43 pm In my opinion, it looks like lower ram fault. But i'm still a beginner in these things.
No. In that case, the border would have still turned white (unless one of the lower RAM ICs was hogging the data/address lines).
Slauri wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:44 pmIssue 2
Wait, so you have an Issue 2 board in a Spectrum+ case?

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 3:07 pm
by Slauri
Yes

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:31 pm
by Slauri
How do i check the voltages?

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:42 pm
by Slauri
It's actually my uncle's old speccy. He bought it used. That would explain the mods.

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 7:01 pm
by Ast A. Moore
Slauri wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 5:31 pm How do i check the voltages?
Set the multimeter in the DC voltage mode, select the 20V range, and touch the black (common) probe to the pin marked as GND in each picture and the red probe to the other pins as indicated. The indicated voltage values are nominal; your actual measurements might deviate slightly from them.

Lower RAM:

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CPU:

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ROM:

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Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 10:04 pm
by 1024MAK
Please note that it is very important that you don’t accidentally short out any of the pins on the chips. So be careful with your meter probes.

Can you post a photo of the power supply that you are using.

Mark

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:54 am
by Slauri
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Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:34 am
by 1024MAK
Going on the rating plate/label, that power supply looks fine.

Mark

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:58 pm
by Guesser
Ast A. Moore wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:50 pm Wait, so you have an Issue 2 board in a Spectrum+ case?
I have an issue 2 Spectrum+, it's an Upgrade case.

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 1:29 pm
by Ast A. Moore
Guesser wrote: Mon Sep 23, 2019 12:58 pm
Ast A. Moore wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2019 2:50 pm Wait, so you have an Issue 2 board in a Spectrum+ case?
I have an issue 2 Spectrum+, it's an Upgrade case.
Sure, I know they existed. It’s just they don’t pop up all that often; so, whenever I see someone mention a Spectrum+, I assume it’s an Issue 4A or later.

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:45 am
by Slauri
There was modifications on the joystick/sound unit too.

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:13 pm
by Slauri
Hi,
I have now removed the old cpu from the pcb. I don't remember, that is the resistor on the left side of the cpu supposed to be connected to the +5v leg of the cpu. I'll put a picture here so you can get better understanding of what i mean. I just want to be sure.
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Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:01 pm
by Ast A. Moore
Yes, the resistor is supposed to be there. Here’s one of the pictures I referenced to earlier:

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Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:35 pm
by Slauri
Of course the resistor is supposed to be there, i know it, but is it supposed to be connected to the +5v leg through a solder blob?

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:15 pm
by 1024MAK
Yes

Mark

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2019 9:44 pm
by 1024MAK
ZX Spectrum Issue 1 and 2 boards
Extra resistor near the CPU.
This is R73, a 1kΩ resistor connected between +5V and ULA pin 32 / R24 / C67 (D14).

From the service manual:
service manual wrote:This modification is required for efficient operation of certain machine code software and should be implemented on all units. It has been implemented in manufacture for all ULAs 5C112-2 and later.
D14 replaced by C67 (100pF)
R24 changed from 3k3 to 1k
R27 changed from 680R to 470R
R73 (1k) added between IC1/32 and +5V
Mark

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2019 7:53 am
by Slauri
Thanks.

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:26 am
by Slauri
This diode snapped in half at some point when desoldering the lower ram chips. Can somebody tell the specs?
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Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:46 am
by Morpheus
Slauri wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 10:26 am This diode snapped in half at some point when desoldering the lower ram chips. Can somebody tell the specs?
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Looks like a 47nf capacitor used on the Speccy and not a diode if it came from C4?

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:29 pm
by Slauri
Never seen a capacitor like that.

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:50 pm
by Ast A. Moore
Slauri wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 12:29 pm Never seen a capacitor like that.
They were pretty common back in the day. A ceramic cap will do just fine in its place, though. Don’t sweat it.

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:19 pm
by 1024MAK
I picked up some 100nF (I think) capacitors like that from a surplus supplier (Greenweld) many years ago.

Anyhoo, the machine should still work with it missing. I do however recommend you fit a modern 47nF or 100nF multilayer ceramic as a replacement.

Mark

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 2:42 pm
by Ast A. Moore
And it doesn’t hurt to combine several capacitors of different values in parallel, say a 47nF and a 1µF one. Each capacitor will operate at a different frequency, because their efficiency is very frequency dependent. In some cases, however, it’s mostly gilding the lily.

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:56 pm
by Morpheus
Did anyone ever fit the 220nf capacitors on the lower RAM to help with the “jailbars” ?

Re: Spectrum+ 48k repair

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 8:27 pm
by Ast A. Moore
Morpheus wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:56 pm Did anyone ever fit the 220nf capacitors on the lower RAM to help with the “jailbars” ?
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