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Re: ZX Spectrum Next

Post by PeterJ » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:33 pm

Welcome @beanz . It's good to have you onboard.

Although I got my hands burnt with the Vega+, I went for the accelerated Next. The general communication from the team seems good, but like others I'm not clear as to the final specification.
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Re: ZX Spectrum Next

Post by MonkZy » Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:01 pm

beanz wrote:don't think there are any plans for a retail release
That is a shame, I guess I will not be getting a Next any time soon. Seems odd to make a brand new Spectrum and then keep it to a very exclusive club of people. I did think the 'accelerated' Next seemed a bit overpriced considering all you get extra is a £15 Pi Zero, I would have happily paid cash for the un-expanded version. Ho hum, tis what it is. As a born-again speccy user I will continue to enjoy coding for the original hardware.
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Re: ZX Spectrum Next

Post by namco » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:48 pm

Had mine about 3 months now. Pleased with it (housed it in a 48k case). You guys saying you will buy retail, don't think there are any plans for a retail release...at least none have been announced or spoken of.
Let's at least wait until the Kickstarter is finally over and done with before we start consigning this to the exclusive owners only bin!
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Re: ZX Spectrum Next

Post by beanz » Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:02 pm

Well it's going to be open source so nothing stopping others from making boards...ZX renew are already making cases.
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Re: ZX Spectrum Next

Post by MonkZy » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:20 pm

Is the Kickstarter campaign now closed? At this time, there does seem that there is no way to place an order for a board-only next, Amirite? The more I read about the Next the more I am gutted that I was not on the scene when the kickstarter was fielded. I have no interest in the boxed and cased version at all, but the board looks super.
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Re: ZX Spectrum Next

Post by llewelyn » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:44 pm

beanz wrote:
Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:02 pm
Well it's going to be open source so nothing stopping others from making boards...ZX renew are already making cases.
Thanks for that bit of useful info beanz! I didn't know of ZXRenew's existence. Great, now maybe I can finally get my own Next once I can get a board too. I really wanted the whole deal with Rich Dickinsons case design and the manual and the fully expanded version with Wi-Fi and Pi acceleration but at least this is a start.
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Re: ZX Spectrum Next

Post by beanz » Tue Mar 27, 2018 6:25 pm

FYI, if you are relatively handy with a soldering iron it's easy to add the clock, internal speaker and pi board (as well as pop in the extra memory). I've got my board fully populated for about ummm $15-$20, the cost of the components and 30 mins soldering, (which I have basic skill at).

I expect when the full NEXTs ship you'll see a bunch of "boards only" posted on ebay for those that pledged for both the board and the cased units...tip, check EBAY USA as I've seen a couple of boards sell on there for $110 (auction) and $150 (buy it now)...much cheaper than boards go for on UK/European ebay.

Myself I'll be keeping my board and using that primarily with the cased next sitting pretty in it's box.
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Re: ZX Spectrum Next

Post by Nomad » Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:14 pm

Bit of a worrying update, would appear that they lost the case/plastic manafacturing & tooling people.
You are likely to have noticed the conspicuous absence of the promised mould pictures of the Next case that would have come in ‘a couple of weeks’ since our last update, allowing you to follow the progress of the plastics production. Well, there has been none -- our plastics manufacturer dropped the project last week (Mar 26th) without much of an explanation (our contact there is also absent from the company), and we’re in talks with a couple new partners with the help of the nice folks at SMS.

Myself, Phil (Rick Dickinson’s partner) and the SMS team are going through diligence since last week to find a replacement plastics company that can hit the ground running, picking up from where we’ve been left. If all goes well, we’ll have someone working on the case soon after the Easter holidays. Failing that, we’ll turn East towards some friends who can speed up things and offset some of the delay we’re caused so far.

We’re deeply sorry for letting the backers down with all this delay on the plastics. We’re as eager as you to put our hands on the cased Next, and it’s very disappointing we’re not there yet. Regardless of the cause for the delay, it’s our (particularly mine) responsibility to get things on time, and we’ve been failing on the plastics. We’re turning the ship around to bring it back on course -- and from this update onwards, we’ll keep you posted every two weeks with whatever news we have on the case production. We’ll get this done, and done well, fear not.
That is a huge issue, as the majority of funds on these types of projects is going to be down to tooling and case design/manufacturing ..
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Re: ZX Spectrum Next

Post by RMartins » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:45 am

Nomad wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 5:14 pm
Bit of a worrying update, would appear that they lost the case/plastic manafacturing & tooling people.

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That is a huge issue, as the majority of funds on these types of projects is going to be down to tooling and case design/manufacturing ..
Not really, if no funds have been transferred to the guys, that just disappeared.
Better to know now, than after funds had been transferred.

It's uncommon for hardware manufacturers to not be worthy of trust.
They are usually reliable in terms of ensuring the work is done, since without trust clients will go elsewhere.
But they are usually not as good for timings though, specially if you have a small batch compared with other work loads they might have.

The clear thing to notice here, is the transparency, of the Next team, that tells us what is happening, even if it looks a really bad problem.

Hopefully, it will just imply a minor delay.
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Re: ZX Spectrum Next

Post by Alessandro » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:41 am

I also went for the accelerated Next and I couldn't help feeling a bit worried when I knew of the mishap with the case manufacturer. Anyway, I do hope they find another provider for the plastics soon - and more trustworthy this time. Cased Nexts should have been shipped towards the end of January initially if I remember correctly, and although delays are to be expected in such cases, we are well into April now... At least they are not hiding the problems behind a continuous stream of deadlines, it seems.
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