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ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:45 pm
by PeterJ
With the news this morning, I think it's the right time to open up Vega+ discussion.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... y-44381247

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Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:56 pm
by R-Tape
I forgot to mention Peter - I'm going on holiday for a week or two, I don't even think I'll have 4G.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:26 pm
by Ast A. Moore
R-Tape wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:56 pm I don't even think I'll have 4G.
So, not on Earth, then. We generally don’t get more than 1G of acceleration here. Still, a great opportunity for you to build up some muscles.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:48 pm
by Guesser
Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:26 pm
R-Tape wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:56 pm I don't even think I'll have 4G.
So, not on Earth, then. We generally don’t get more than 1G of acceleration here. Still, a great opportunity for you to build up some muscles.
Your joke has gaping flaws in its logic...

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:59 pm
by Seven.FFF
With 4G you might suffer a mental blackout, but without 4G you might suffer a media blackout. Tricky one.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:59 pm
by Ast A. Moore
Guesser wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:48 pm
Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:26 pm So, not on Earth, then. We generally don’t get more than 1G of acceleration here. Still, a great opportunity for you to build up some muscles.
Your joke has gaping flaws in its logic...
Oh, yeah? EnLighTEn me.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:00 pm
by AndyC
I can't say I'm surprised. Saddened, yes, deeply disappointed and gutted for all those who've lost money on this, but not overly surprised.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:13 pm
by Ralf
Not surprised too.

Actually it had no chance to succeed when guys who should cooperate jumped down their throats and all this saga of accusations, legal fighting, trolling and hating on internet and so on began.

I hope that one day someone will describe it all objectively in probably some big book. I have my version of whole story but would like to see it confirmed.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:15 pm
by Guesser
Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:59 pm Oh, yeah? EnLighTEn me.
A doesn't have B, C doesn't have B, therefore A isn't C. ← makes no sense.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:20 pm
by Pegaz
Two of my messages have disappeared, accidentally or not, but I will not send the third time, for sure.
If we cant talk freely about this topic, then its better that it doesnt exist at all..

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:22 pm
by PeterJ
Pegaz wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:20 pm Two of my messages have disappeared, accidentally or not, but I will not send the third time, for sure.
If we cant talk freely about this topic, then its better that it doesnt exist at all..
Hi, I can confirm I have not deleted any posts in this thread. Must be at your end. PM me if it continues.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:29 pm
by Ast A. Moore
Guesser wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:15 pm
Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:59 pm Oh, yeah? EnLighTEn me.
A doesn't have B, C doesn't have B, therefore A isn't C. ← makes no sense.
Ooo, yeah, um . . . I’m gonna to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:39 pm
by Pegaz
PeterJ wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:22 pm
Pegaz wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:20 pm Two of my messages have disappeared, accidentally or not, but I will not send the third time, for sure.
If we cant talk freely about this topic, then its better that it doesnt exist at all..
Hi, I can confirm I have not deleted any posts in this thread. Must be at your end. PM me if it continues.
It probably at my end, then... Actually its not a big deal..

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:33 pm
by ZXDunny
Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:29 pm
Guesser wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:15 pm A doesn't have B, C doesn't have B, therefore A isn't C. ← makes no sense.
Ooo, yeah, um . . . I’m gonna to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there.
I agree with Guesser. Just because two things share a property does not mean they are not equal.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:07 am
by Guesser
ZXDunny wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:33 pm
Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:29 pm Ooo, yeah, um . . . I’m gonna to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there.
I agree with Guesser. Just because two things share a property does not mean they are not equal.
The conclusion is shirley backwards anyway. I can't see how any logic could arrive at that.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:05 am
by jmk

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:55 am
by Ast A. Moore
Guesser wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:07 am
ZXDunny wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:33 pm I agree with Guesser. Just because two things share a property does not mean they are not equal.
The conclusion is shirley backwards anyway. I can't see how any logic could arrive at that.
Logic, logic, logic . . . Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris, not the end.

You both seem to be missing the jokes altogether (two puns and one joke so far, to be precise, for those keeping score at home). Or . . . Could it be the case of the airing of personal grievances? A little too early for that; wait until December 23.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:12 am
by ZXDunny
Ast A. Moore wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:55 am Could it be the case of the airing of personal grievances? A little too early for that; wait until December 23.
No, don't wait. We're a friendly community and if you have issues then by all means talk them through. We're here for you, dude.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:24 am
by Ast A. Moore
ZXDunny wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:12 am
Ast A. Moore wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:55 am Could it be the case of the airing of personal grievances? A little too early for that; wait until December 23.
No, don't wait. We're a friendly community and if you have issues then by all means talk them through. We're here for you, dude.
But what will we do at the Festivus dinner, then?

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:02 am
by R-Tape
Can we rename this thread "3 men talking absolute bollocks" ?

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:17 am
by PaddyC13
Hi Folks,

I think this is all very sad. When I read the latest message I sent an official request via Indegogo for a full refund. Not expecting to get my money back but you never know.

Personally, I don't care who's fault all of this is - it is just a real shame that something so special has ended this way.

Paddy

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:37 am
by Ast A. Moore
R-Tape wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:02 am Can we rename this thread "3 men talking absolute bollocks" ?
You have my vote.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:17 am
by hikoki
This affair became a Chess game. Of course the winner will be a master in chess. I never won a chess game by the way

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:00 pm
by Ralf
Can we rename this thread "3 men talking absolute bollocks" ?
You have my vote too ;)
I never got this abstract sense of humour and once it was quite frequent on old WOS.

Re: ZX Vega+ Discussion

Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2018 5:23 pm
by beanz
An absolute fiasco from start to finish.

There is absolutely no excuse for this product not being in the hands of backers already 2+ years later...it's a crappy little handheld, not a ground breaking new propulsion system for sending man to mars.

(btw NASA to make 'major announcement' about red planet discovery today)