ZX Vega+ Discussion

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With the news this morning, I think it's the right time to open up Vega+ discussion.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc. ... y-44381247

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I forgot to mention Peter - I'm going on holiday for a week or two, I don't even think I'll have 4G.
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R-Tape wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:56 pm I don't even think I'll have 4G.
So, not on Earth, then. We generally don’t get more than 1G of acceleration here. Still, a great opportunity for you to build up some muscles.
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Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:26 pm
R-Tape wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:56 pm I don't even think I'll have 4G.
So, not on Earth, then. We generally don’t get more than 1G of acceleration here. Still, a great opportunity for you to build up some muscles.
Your joke has gaping flaws in its logic...
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With 4G you might suffer a mental blackout, but without 4G you might suffer a media blackout. Tricky one.
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Guesser wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:48 pm
Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:26 pm So, not on Earth, then. We generally don’t get more than 1G of acceleration here. Still, a great opportunity for you to build up some muscles.
Your joke has gaping flaws in its logic...
Oh, yeah? EnLighTEn me.
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I can't say I'm surprised. Saddened, yes, deeply disappointed and gutted for all those who've lost money on this, but not overly surprised.
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Not surprised too.

Actually it had no chance to succeed when guys who should cooperate jumped down their throats and all this saga of accusations, legal fighting, trolling and hating on internet and so on began.

I hope that one day someone will describe it all objectively in probably some big book. I have my version of whole story but would like to see it confirmed.
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Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:59 pm Oh, yeah? EnLighTEn me.
A doesn't have B, C doesn't have B, therefore A isn't C. ← makes no sense.
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Two of my messages have disappeared, accidentally or not, but I will not send the third time, for sure.
If we cant talk freely about this topic, then its better that it doesnt exist at all..
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Pegaz wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:20 pm Two of my messages have disappeared, accidentally or not, but I will not send the third time, for sure.
If we cant talk freely about this topic, then its better that it doesnt exist at all..
Hi, I can confirm I have not deleted any posts in this thread. Must be at your end. PM me if it continues.
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Guesser wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:15 pm
Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:59 pm Oh, yeah? EnLighTEn me.
A doesn't have B, C doesn't have B, therefore A isn't C. ← makes no sense.
Ooo, yeah, um . . . I’m gonna to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there.
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PeterJ wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:22 pm
Pegaz wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:20 pm Two of my messages have disappeared, accidentally or not, but I will not send the third time, for sure.
If we cant talk freely about this topic, then its better that it doesnt exist at all..
Hi, I can confirm I have not deleted any posts in this thread. Must be at your end. PM me if it continues.
It probably at my end, then... Actually its not a big deal..
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Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:29 pm
Guesser wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:15 pm A doesn't have B, C doesn't have B, therefore A isn't C. ← makes no sense.
Ooo, yeah, um . . . I’m gonna to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there.
I agree with Guesser. Just because two things share a property does not mean they are not equal.
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ZXDunny wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:33 pm
Ast A. Moore wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:29 pm Ooo, yeah, um . . . I’m gonna to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there.
I agree with Guesser. Just because two things share a property does not mean they are not equal.
The conclusion is shirley backwards anyway. I can't see how any logic could arrive at that.
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Just like before, it's yesterday once more.
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Guesser wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:07 am
ZXDunny wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:33 pm I agree with Guesser. Just because two things share a property does not mean they are not equal.
The conclusion is shirley backwards anyway. I can't see how any logic could arrive at that.
Logic, logic, logic . . . Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris, not the end.

You both seem to be missing the jokes altogether (two puns and one joke so far, to be precise, for those keeping score at home). Or . . . Could it be the case of the airing of personal grievances? A little too early for that; wait until December 23.
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Ast A. Moore wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:55 am Could it be the case of the airing of personal grievances? A little too early for that; wait until December 23.
No, don't wait. We're a friendly community and if you have issues then by all means talk them through. We're here for you, dude.
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ZXDunny wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 9:12 am
Ast A. Moore wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:55 am Could it be the case of the airing of personal grievances? A little too early for that; wait until December 23.
No, don't wait. We're a friendly community and if you have issues then by all means talk them through. We're here for you, dude.
But what will we do at the Festivus dinner, then?
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Can we rename this thread "3 men talking absolute bollocks" ?
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Hi Folks,

I think this is all very sad. When I read the latest message I sent an official request via Indegogo for a full refund. Not expecting to get my money back but you never know.

Personally, I don't care who's fault all of this is - it is just a real shame that something so special has ended this way.

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R-Tape wrote: Thu Jun 07, 2018 10:02 am Can we rename this thread "3 men talking absolute bollocks" ?
You have my vote.
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This affair became a Chess game. Of course the winner will be a master in chess. I never won a chess game by the way
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Can we rename this thread "3 men talking absolute bollocks" ?
You have my vote too ;)
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An absolute fiasco from start to finish.

There is absolutely no excuse for this product not being in the hands of backers already 2+ years later...it's a crappy little handheld, not a ground breaking new propulsion system for sending man to mars.

(btw NASA to make 'major announcement' about red planet discovery today)
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