World of Spectrum....

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Re: World of Spectrum....

Post by Einar Saukas » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:38 pm

KenD wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 3:25 pm
Einar, I commend your patience in dealing with Lee, but I fear you're wasting your time. Everything you have done has been technically exemplary, proposed politely and communicated respectfully. Instead, you get rudeness, contradictions and misdirection; selectively responding to choice allegations and conveniently ignoring the more pertinent questions. He's the real-life equivalent of Viz's Aldridge Prior.

Trying to get him to back to reality with facts is a bit like kicking a dead whale up a beach: slow, messy, and ultimately pointless.
Thanks for the support! :)
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Re: World of Spectrum....

Post by Einar Saukas » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:07 pm

Mike Davies wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:24 pm
On the topic of IDs, is there any appetite to add a WoS ID field to the entries table in ZXDB? Initially it would be identical to the existing "ZXDB ID" field, but when Fogarty (or his team) then branches off and uses a different ID, we'll still have a field to record the WoS-specific mapping.
Actually it's more complicated: Lee also plans to break compatibility between old WoS and new WoS too. According to him, new WoS will have different IDs from old WoS. He mentioned it here (July 2017):

"Yes the old infoseek ID's will work, but no, we aren't keeping the same numbering system. In reality, there will be a lookup table between old id's and new ones. All software items will be renumbered to follow an auto-increment and new items follow on from there. The lookup is for backwards compatibility with old links."

Anyway your answer is yes. In the future, we plan to map IDs from both ZXDB and old WoS, into IDs from new WoS. Unless Lee changes his mind again about this...

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Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:24 pm
Thank you for confirming there is life to ZXDB after that point. That opens up the gates for contributions. I've been reluctant to volunteer to help while Fogarty remains a "gate-keeper" for ZXDB, and that's why I offered help when it became clear that ZXDB was no longer welcome on WoS.

That you are free to work on developing new games is great news. I'm relieved ZXDB isn't consuming lots of time. But, please shout if you need help, you are not alone, and there's a nice community building here, built on-top of your work. It's a valuable chunk of infrastructure.
Thank you very much!!! :)

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Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:24 pm
Do you have a roadmap of features, or new types of information to add to ZXDB? I'm curious :-)
Good point! Just please give me some time to take care of more urgent tasks first, and I will publish current ZXDB roadmap ASAP.
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Re: World of Spectrum....

Post by EdwardCatflap » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:23 pm

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Post by 5MinuteRetro » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:10 pm

Really, does it much matter at this stage? The WoS stewardship is a laughing stock, and the brand is likely now irretrievably tarnished. I'd say ignore it and let it whither. SC is my new trusted source for all things Spectrum.
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Re: World of Spectrum....

Post by Ralf » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:50 pm

Yes, ignoring is the best option.

The true world of Spectrum is where is the true spirit.
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Re: World of Spectrum....

Post by Nomad » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:58 pm

Agree with Ralf, best thing is just to ignore it. If the guy wants to remove core functionality from his forum that is his choice.
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Re: World of Spectrum....

Post by Alessandro » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:22 am

5MinuteRetro wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:10 pm
I'd say ignore it and let it whither. SC is my new trusted source for all things Spectrum.
If WOS should fade away, I'd be immensely sad. I have been a member of the forum for 20 years by now and couldn't ever imagine it not being any more. Certainly I am more active here nowadays (except for some later inactivity due to more important "real life" matters) but WOS has been a part of my life for so much time, despite the problems since Martijn left and the discussions over food and obscure UK TV programs taking a large share of the total, that I could simply not accept such a fate as if it were nothing.

I will continue posting my own news there, and answering posts when I feel like it, as I did in the past. The demise of WOS would not be a defeat for Lee Fogarty - it would be a defeat for all of us.
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Re: World of Spectrum....

Post by RMartins » Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:44 am

Alessandro wrote:
Mon Apr 02, 2018 10:22 am
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I will continue posting my own news there, and answering posts when I feel like it, as I did in the past.
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I would also like to be able to do that, and fix all the links on my previous threads, that are no longer valid ...

However, after being banned without any relation to the website, it's hard to contribute ...
I hope that will not happen to many more, because if it does, it will be impossible to keep the place going ...
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Re: World of Spectrum....

Post by Alessandro » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:00 am

I don't want to resuscitate old troubles, even less about circumstances beyond my personal knowledge, but since I am still there, I will continue being active on it rather much as before. Not as intensely, as several people I interacted with the most chose to migrate here for good, but again, I don't like the idea of completely ignoring the website at the heart of almost all of my retrocomputing and retrogaming 20-year-old activity, despite the events after Martijn's leave.
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Re: World of Spectrum....

Post by PeterJ » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:02 am

@Alessandro its would indeed be very sad if WoS ever bit the dust. I think we all want it to survive and return to it's former glory.
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