richl wrote: ↑
Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:28 pm
Sorry, Mark, but the "Lee pays for the server" thing isn't really a good argument and it certainly isn't an excuse for some of the unforgiveable things he's done recently. People have offered to pay for hosting but Lee wasn't interested. Besides which, it's hosted on the same server that he's got his paying clients' sites on, right? And how do you actually know how much work he's put into the site? Everything has been kept top secret so that in terms of things that are actually verifiably true, all we can say for certain is that the main site is more broken than it used to be and that the new one is very much unfinished. I'd also dispute your assertion that he wants members of WoS to help him maintain the site. He's actively refused help on many occasions, as a matter of fact. He also doesn't like members of the community asking him questions either. With regard to the magazines section you mention, that's all the work of one seriously dedicated guy doing all the scanning because he wants to give to the community as a whole. Lee's got naff all to do with it.
Anyway, what were you saying about keeping an open mind?
As I said earlier, I'm not here to defend Lee. But I question your motives. You ask questions and make statements. So I challenge you on those points.
My interest is in keeping a useful resource online. I want WoS to stay online. Why, well because I find WoS a useful site. Enough web sites about 1980s and 1990s computers have gone off line already.
Excuse me, but I never said "Lee pays for the server". WoS was free and is still free.
Further, there are forums and websites where the owner/operator does ask for money towards running the site. In actual fact, I have donated money to this very site. How much have you donated?
And here we go again. What has Lee done? No, I don't want a list of what you think he has done. I want a list of what you know, beyond reasonable doubt, that he has done. There is too much misinformation going on. Did you never get detention at school because someone in your class did something. As the teacher did not know who, the whole class got detention. That's what I see here. Blame being thrown around. At work once, my team got the blame for damage to a car owned by one of the high level managers (we were the only staff in the building at the time). But when the management reviewed the CCTV of the car park, no one was seen. A wheeled bin was however seen to move. So the cause was a gust of wind.The manager never said sorry to us.
But WoS is Lee's site you will say. Funny that, because elsewhere you want it to be your site...
And of course, how a site is run is down to the owner/operator. Despite what you think, the U.K. is not a full democracy and WoS forums (or indeed these forums) are also not a democracy. Lee has posted on WoS forums about the existing WoS team (see my earlier post).
But seriously, do you think all this knocking Lee and knocking WoS is helpful? Do you want WoS to close down?
And as to keeping an open mind, if I was the owner/operator of WoS, I surely would have been tempted to delete some of the unhelpful posts and threads. Or do as CPCWiki does and move them to "The Hall of Shame" area.
So Rich, what have you contributed to the Spectrum community recently?