multi load

+3code · Post by **+3code** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 7:45 pm

I think it would be good include "multi load" in "Features:" for games as Turrican, Final Fight and others.

Einar Saukas · Post by **Einar Saukas** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:41 pm

We already have 2 features:

Multi-loader in 48K mode only
Multi-loader in both 48K and 128K

What are the games that should be added to each feature?

+3code · Post by **+3code** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:02 pm

Wow, Im blind, sorry

+3code · Post by **+3code** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:29 pm

Einar Saukas wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 9:41 pm We already have 2 features:

Multi-loader in 48K mode only
Multi-loader in both 48K and 128K

What are the games that should be added to each feature?

I think Turrican, Turrican 2 and Nightbreed are all multiload 48/128, and Final Fight multiload 128. I think St. Dragon and Double Dragon 3 are too multiload, but not sure now.

Einar Saukas · Post by **Einar Saukas** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:46 pm

+3code wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:29 pm I think Turrican, Turrican 2 and Nightbreed are all multiload 48/128

Sorry, I have no idea what you mean.

Do you mean Multi-loader in 48K mode only or Multi-loader in both 48K and 128K?

+3code wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:29 pm and Final Fight multiload 128

I also have no idea if you mean Multi-loader in 48K mode only or Multi-loader in both 48K and 128K.

+3code · Post by **+3code** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:54 pm

Einar Saukas wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:46 pm
+3code wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:29 pm I think Turrican, Turrican 2 and Nightbreed are all multiload 48/128
Sorry, I have no idea what you mean.

Do you mean Multi-loader in 48K mode only or Multi-loader in both 48K and 128K?

Multi-loader in both 48K and 128K

Einar Saukas wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:46 pm
+3code wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:29 pm and Final Fight multiload 128
I also have no idea if you mean Multi-loader in 48K mode only or Multi-loader in both 48K and 128K.

A new group.

Einar Saukas · Post by **Einar Saukas** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:21 pm

+3code wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:54 pm
Einar Saukas wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:46 pm I also have no idea if you mean Multi-loader in 48K mode only or Multi-loader in both 48K and 128K.
A new group.

Do you mean this Final Fight?

+3code · Post by **+3code** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:33 pm

Einar Saukas wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:21 pm
+3code wrote: ↑Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:54 pm A new group.
Do you mean this Final Fight?

Yes.

Einar Saukas · Post by **Einar Saukas** » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:37 pm

Thanks for all the information!

This will be included in the next ZXDB update. Also I think it will be easier to merge both groups, just adding a note in Wonder Boy to indicate it's multi-load in 48K mode only.

+3code · Post by **+3code** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:09 am

Thanks. If anyone knows more titles, it would be nice to add them. I have seen that are also multiload:
-Strider
-Strider 2
-Chevy Chase
-Mystical
-Turbo The Tortoise
-Wrestle Crazy
but I have to look if the multiload is only 48k, 48k and 128k, etc.

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Einar Saukas · Post by **Einar Saukas** » Tue Oct 20, 2020 1:07 pm

Thanks!

+3code · Post by **+3code** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:38 am

Well, I can confirm as multiload:

-Strider
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/9 ... um/Strider
Multiload only 48k.

-Strider 2
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/4 ... Strider_II
Multiload both 48/128.

-Chevy Chase
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/9 ... hevy_Chase
Multiload only 48k.

-Mystical
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... m/Mystical
Multiload both 48/128.

-Turbo The Tortoise
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/5 ... e_Tortoise
Multiload both 48/128.

-Popeye 3: Wrestle Crazy
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... stle_Crazy
Multiload both 48/128.

Tnks

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druellan · Post by **druellan** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 11:06 am

Oh, thanks for this! Groups is an incredible idea that needs so much love.

[mention]Einar Saukas[/mention] I don't know how many titles are already in this groups, but it's not better to have a plain "multi-load" group and then a "single load in 128k" one? If I'm understanding correctly the meaning of the groups, that can better represent the features .

+3code · Post by **+3code** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 5:37 pm

A few more confirmed multiloads:

-Gremlins 2
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/2 ... Generación
Multiload both 48/128.

-Ghostbusters 2
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/2 ... busters_II
Multiload both 48/128.

-SWIV
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/5 ... ctrum/SWIV
Released only as 128k.

-St. Dragon
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/4 ... /St_Dragon
Released only as 128k.

-Street Fighter 2
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/9 ... Fighter_II
Released only as 128k.

Tnks : )

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RWAC · Post by **RWAC** » Sun Oct 25, 2020 6:24 pm

Rainbow Islands
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/7 ... ow_Islands

Midnight Resistance
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... Resistance

Both of these are Multiload in 48K only

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+3code · Post by **+3code** » Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:29 am

I've found a few more multiloads:

-Double Dragon 3
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... etta_Stone
Released only as 128.

-Shadow of the Beast
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/4 ... _the_Beast
Both multiload, 48/128.

-Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles - The Coin-Op
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/5 ... he_Coin-Op
Both multiload, 48/128.

-Robozone
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/4 ... m/Robozone
Both multiload, 48/128.

-Pit-Fighter
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... it-Fighter
Both multiload, 48/128.

Thanks.

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+3code · Post by **+3code** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:08 pm

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Zendero · Post by **Zendero** » Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:54 pm

I believe it was not mentioned before but Rick Dangerous 2 is multiload in both 48k and 128k.

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/4 ... angerous_2

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+3code · Post by **+3code** » Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:56 pm

Four more multiloads:

-Alien Syndrome
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... n_Syndrome
Multiload both 48/128.

-Altered Beast
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... ered_Beast
Multiload 48k, I dont have a 128k version to test.

-Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/2 ... f_Atlantis
Multiload both 48/128.

-Moonwalker
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... Moonwalker
Multiload both 48/128.

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druellan · Post by **druellan** » Sun May 23, 2021 9:21 pm

Hi! I want to resurrect this thread and start adding games to the group.

As commented before, my proposal is to populate the Multi-Loader group with "all" the games featuring multi-load in 48k and 128k, and later create a new group "Single-Load 128k" for games that load all the levels in memory on the 128k models, since I feel is another feature on top fo the multi-load.

Thoughts?

Einar Saukas · Post by **Einar Saukas** » Sun May 23, 2021 11:01 pm

Right now ZXDB has a single group for Multi-loader.

If a certain game is multi-load in 48K but single-load in 128K, then it's added to this group with a simple remark clarifying it, like this. There are so few games like this that I don't think it's worth it to create a sub-group.

druellan · Post by **druellan** » Sun May 23, 2021 11:13 pm

Thanks Einar. Perfect, so, I'm going to complete the group with all the multi-load games I can find.
Also, you know I'm an insistent chap

so, I'm going to check how many single-load 128k games I can find, and if there are a bunch we can discuss to create a new group or not.

Einar Saukas · Post by **Einar Saukas** » Sun May 23, 2021 11:15 pm

Makes sense!

Alessandro · Post by **Alessandro** » Mon May 24, 2021 12:09 am

Here are some multi-load titles not present in that group. All of them are multi-loaded in both 48K and 128K unless otherwise stated.

Question: How can two never released titles be present there? Creatures was most probably not even programmed for the Spectrum by the way.

New York Warriors (note: game was released incomplete)
Desolator
Cabal (48K only)
Impossible Mission II
Agent X
Karnov
Out Run
Shackled (48K only)
Indiana Jones And The Temple Of Doom
Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade
Indiana Jones And The Fate Of Atlantis
Street Fighter
Street Fighter II
Gauntlet
Gauntlet II
Gauntlet III
Thunder Blade
Double Dragon
Double Dragon II
Double Dragon III
Shinobi
Human Killing Machine
World Games
SWIV
St. Dragon
Techno Cop
Tai-Pan (48K only)
Sly Spy Secret Agent
Operation Wolf (48K only)
Operation Thunderbolt
Hostages
Chase HQ (48K only)
Crosswize
Street Hassle
Bronx
Ninja Hamster (48K only)
P-47 Freedom Fighter
Nigel Mansell's Grand Prix (48K only)
Laser Squad
Lords Of Chaos
Gryzor (48K only)
Killed Until Dead
Athena (48K only)
Ace Of Aces
Dragon's Lair
Dragon's Lair II
Mask
Mask II
After Burner
Motorbike Madness
Monty Python's Flying Circus
Last Duel
LED Storm (48K only)
Mr Heli
Dynamite Dux
Dragon Breed
Super Wonder Boy
Flash Gordon
Frank Bruno's Boxing
Gee Bee Air Rally
Potsworth & Co.
Red Heat
Times Of Lore
Infiltrator
Galaxy Force
Gemini Wing
Blood Brothers
Bloodwych
Alien Syndrome
Deus Ex Machina
Hunt For Red October (Based on the movie)
New Zealand Story
Oriental Games
Summer Games
Summer Games II
Space Harrier II
Koronis Rift
California Games
Chip's Challenge
Predator
Predator II
Untouchables
Fighter Bomber
Platoon (48K only)
Jetsons, The
Crack Down
Narc
Deep, The
Ninja Warriors
Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles (coin-op)
Games Summer Edition, The
Games Winter Edition, The
Winter Olympiad 88
Winter Sports
Running Man, The
Shadow Dancer
Butcher Hill
Buggy Boy
Popeye II
19 Part 1 Boot Camp
007 Spy Who Loved Me
Spherical
Way Of The Tiger, The
Time Scanner
Xenon
World Class Leaderboard
Nosferatu The Vampyre
F-16 Combat Pilot
Arcade Trivia Quiz
Shadows Of Mordor
Ninja Spirit
Mickey Mouse
Basil The Great Mouse Detective
Batman The Movie (48K only)
Snodgits
Paris Dakar
Viaje Al Centro De La Tierra
Perico Delgado Maillot Amarillo
Tour De Force
Gremlins 2
Final Assault
Forgotten Worlds
X-Out
Vindicator (48K only)

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druellan · Post by **druellan** » Mon May 24, 2021 12:11 am

Amazing Alessandro, and yeah, I don't know what happened there, but I also remember more games on the group. I want to check what is going on.

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