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Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:00 pm
by PeterJ
I'm pleased to say that we can now accept Sam Coupe screens for preservation.

The first example is here:

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=28501

I have been using ASCD which is a Sam Coupe emulator which exports screens in .scr format.

http://www.keprt.cz/progs/ascd/ascd100.zip

If you want to contribute any screens it would be helpful if you could change the extension from .scr to .ss4. Apart from that just follow the normal instructions here.

Many thanks to [mention]moroz1999[/mention] for installing the new version of his zx-image library for us. I learnt a great deal from him in the process which is always a good thing.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:39 pm
by 8BitAG
I didn't realise that there was another Sam emulator!

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 4:52 pm
by PeterJ
8BitAG wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 4:39 pm I didn't realise that there was another Sam emulator!
Yes, I only found it when I was looking for one that outputs screens. It seems to be rather good (although old!). I always like software that is 'portable' too.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 6:43 pm
by +3code
I remember, as a teenager, asking in stores if the SAM was going to arrive here (Spain). The salesman jokingly looked me and said "I don't think so." But for a long time I dreamed with that machine. I was recently using SAM BASIC a little with the SimCoupe. It have nothing to envy of an MSX 2+. Great machine.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 7:36 pm
by +3code
BTW: I always thought SAM meant "Spectrum Advanced Machine" :D

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 7:41 am
by moroz1999
I hope somebody would make a port of Sim Coupe emulator into Javascript :)

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 5:41 pm
by Ralf
Do we have a bad screenshot or drawing engine error here?

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=28339

That's what I see in case if it is a browser thing:

Image

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 6:31 pm
by PeterJ
Hi [mention]Ralf[/mention]

This is a testing phase. Some images like the one you have seen are not correctly outputted by the emulator. I'm told that this game is switching screens two thirds down The only officially working one is at the start of this thread. Please don't bother reporting other Sam screen issues for now. I will post updates here.

It's a complicated issue as you will see here. Apologies if you are already aware of the technicalities.

viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1926

Once the testing phase is over I won't be displaying screens until they are individual checked.

Thanks.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 8:33 pm
by Ralf
All right, I just tried to be helpful :) So let's wait for more news.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 8:45 pm
by PeterJ
Ralf wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 8:33 pm All right, I just tried to be helpful :)
Thank you. It is appreciated.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 9:31 am
by PeterJ
If anyone knows of a good source of a wider range of Sam Coupe games than is more generally available to download, please could they PM me? Thank you.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 12:50 pm
by Ralf
Did you check this one (rather obvious ;) ) and the other links included in it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... 3%A9_games

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 1:32 pm
by PeterJ
Ralf wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 12:50 pm Did you check this one (rather obvious ;) ) and the other links included in it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S ... 3%A9_games
Thanks, but I need download links to more of the titles.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 1:59 pm
by 8BitAG
World of Sam has downloads for the games where the original authors have granted them permission...
https://www.worldofsam.org/products?fie ... arget_id=3

The usual "ROM" sites exist if you want to download a larger archive.

Colin "Quazar" Piggot actually owns a lot of rights for SAM software; he has invested a considerable amount obtaining these for his SAM magazine, so those titles shouldn't be available for download elsewhere.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:03 pm
by PeterJ
Thanks [mention]8BitAG[/mention]. I've exhausted World of Sam.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:05 pm
by 8BitAG
PeterJ wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 2:03 pm Thanks @8BitAG. I've exhausted World of Sam.
I'm pretty sure I must have a download archive that has more titles on; if you're just using titles for testing purposes (and grabbing screenshots).

(see edited post above re. games that have active rights)

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:09 pm
by 8BitAG
You may find some more games in the TOSEC archive...
https://archive.org/details/Sam_Coupe_TOSEC_2012_04_23

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:11 pm
by PeterJ
8BitAG wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 2:09 pm You may find some more games in the TOSEC archive...
https://archive.org/details/Sam_Coupe_TOSEC_2012_04_23
Thanks, I've been through that one too. If you find your downloaded files for testing purposes please PM me.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:12 pm
by 8BitAG
PeterJ wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 2:11 pm Thanks, I've been through that one too.
Then that's pretty much going to be what is available out there. Colin has his own private collection of material for the authors that he's obtained rights from. Some interesting things in there that will hopefully make it onto future Sam Revival disks.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:17 pm
by 8BitAG
PeterJ wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 2:03 pm Thanks @8BitAG. I've exhausted World of Sam.
I'm surprised that you're not still making your way through the FRED disks. :) Most of the SAM's programs and games were distributed through the various disk magazines.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:19 pm
by PeterJ
It's specific released titles that I'm not able to find. Don't worry, I will continue looking.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:21 pm
by Stefan
PeterJ wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 2:19 pm It's specific released titles that I'm not able to find. Don't worry, I will continue looking.
Do you have any specific names?
If they are on World of SAM but with permission denied, then Andrew Collier should be able to provide you with screen shots.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:30 pm
by PeterJ
Excellent [mention]Stefan123[/mention],

I will start to collate a list.

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:42 pm
by Einar Saukas
8BitAG wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 2:17 pm
PeterJ wrote: Thu May 28, 2020 2:03 pm Thanks @8BitAG. I've exhausted World of Sam.
I'm surprised that you're not still making your way through the FRED disks. :) Most of the SAM's programs and games were distributed through the various disk magazines.
Since you mentioned Fred...

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... mag_id=320
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... sue&list=1

Re: Sam Coupe Screens Preservation

Posted: Thu May 28, 2020 2:55 pm
by PeterJ
Do you fancy collating all the Fred screens for us [mention]8BitAG[/mention]?