Announcing our new scoring system

[PeterJ]

Over 200 votes already!

[Morkin]

Oh, hang on - I voted for about a bunch of games earlier (21 I think), but I'm not sure it picked up most of my votes...

I misread the 2 minute thing as relating to voting for the same game twice... Is there any way I can find out which games I successfully voted for?

Is voting for 2 games within 2 minutes really classed as spam voting? I thought it might be nice to have a splurge, but that makes it a bit restrictive.

Also I think if there are going to be restrictions they need to be put on the voting page, there shouldn't be a need for documentation for rating a game IMO...

[Edit: Basically my 'splurge' voting was going through my personal top 20 and rating them all 10]

[RWAC]

That explains Sqij, EastEnders and Renegade 3's perfect 10's!

[RWAC]

It seems it's possible to vote for never released games.

[PeterJ]

Hi [mention]Morkin[/mention],

Here are your recorded votes:



Thank you for the feedback. I have made the grave mistake of previously changing things immediately based on feedback which landed me in trouble. Can I ask that you let the system bed in (Its only been live for 8 hours). We can review the feedback and make alterations, and add notifications maybe as you suggest.

The worry is (and I appreciate its a low risk), that someone joins the forum and randomly votes for anything and everything. That would of course be sortable by deleting the votes by that user, but its a pain. We can reduce the time gradually.

I'm sure once things have settled in we can make small amends such as reducing the 2 minute check.

PS: Enter the Entry_ID like this:

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/580/

[PeterJ]

It seems it's possible to vote for never released games.

Yes, you can vote for anything. The votes database just looks at entries. If ZXDB has an entry you can vote for it.

[Morkin]

Thank you for the feedback. I have made the grave mistake of changing things immediately based on feedback which landed me in trouble. Can I ask that you let the system bed in (Its only been live for 8 hours). We can review the feedback and make alterations, and add notifications maybe as you suggest.

The worry is (and I appreciate its a low risk), that someone joins the forum and randomly votes for anything and everything. That would of course be sortable by deleting the votes by that user, but its a pain. We can reduce the time gradually.

I'm sure once things have settled in we can make small amends.

PS: Enter the Entry_ID like this:

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/580/

Cheers Peter. Looks like it registered a few at least.

...I didn't twig it wasn't registering my votes, I don't know if it's possible if that happens to have a message after submitting too many saying something like 'you must wait 2 minutes between votes' or whatever.

[PeterJ]

Looking at those votes it looks like it's one minute, rather than two. I will check with Israel.

[voxeltower]

Ok, 1 minute is a lot, no problem. I have reduced it to 15 seconds.
I think that is enough time to change game and think what score to put.
Let me know if something goes wrong.

[PeterJ]

Congratulations [mention]Juan F. Ramirez[/mention] on 100 votes!

[PeterJ]

Israel has just produced an excellent ranking page.

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/rating.php

The page will over time get themed to match the rest of the site, and we will find a permanent home for it.

[Juan F. Ramirez]

Congratulations @Juan F. Ramirez on 100 votes!

It's my top-100. I voted this way:

Positions 1 - 10: 10 points
11 - 25: 9 points
26 - 50: 8 points
51 - 100: 7 points

It's been a cool evening!

Now the rest of games, I'll search by companies, authors, etc and give them 7 or below.

[Juan F. Ramirez]

Israel has just produced an excellent ranking page.

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/rating.php

The page will over time get themed to match the rest of the site, and we will find a permanent home for it.

Just a suggestion: For example, Knight Lore got an average score of 7.750 points, but in its entry only 7.8 is shown.

7.75 should be the proper number to display. Two decimal positions.

[RWAC]

Poor Sqij.
2 votes and a score of 0!

[PeterJ]

Just a suggestion: For example, Knight Lore got an average score of 7.750 points, but in its entry only 7.8 is shown.

7.75 should be the proper number to display. Two decimal positions.

Sorry [mention]Juan F. Ramirez[/mention], but I think one decimal point on the game page is fine for these purposes. I don't want it to get too serious.

[Lethargeek]

Israel has just produced an excellent ranking page.

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/rating.php

The page will over time get themed to match the rest of the site, and we will find a permanent home for it.

i see it is for any entry as well, this can be confusing if different types have the same name, eg Chaos

[PeterJ]

i see it is for any entry as well, this can be confusing if different types have the same name, eg Chaos

Thanks for the feedback. The entry ID is in the table too. Eventually we could hyperlink back to the game page.

[voxeltower]

i see it is for any entry as well, this can be confusing if different types have the same name, eg Chaos

Thanks for the feedback. The entry ID is in the table too. Eventually we could hyperlink back to the game page.

I have added the link to the game on the web.

[R-Tape]

Nice work fellas.

I'm scared to place my first vote, as it sets my precedent. Do I go straight in and give Manic Miner a 10 or a 9? If I give it a 9, can I ever give anything a 10? Argh!

[catmeows]

Nice work fellas.

I'm scared to place my first vote, as it sets my precedent. Do I go straight in and give Manic Miner a 10 or a 9? If I give it a 9, can I ever give anything a 10? Argh!

Clearly, you should give MM score 9. 10 is reserved for Target Renegade and Tetris 2 only.
On serious note, I realized I gave score in ranges 6-10 and 4-3 so far. There is reason why some voting system use scale of 0-5, the bigger scale can be little daunting

[+3code]

Only a minor question. Can I see a list of what I have voted?

[+3code]

Nice work fellas.

I'm scared to place my first vote, as it sets my precedent. Do I go straight in and give Manic Miner a 10 or a 9? If I give it a 9, can I ever give anything a 10? Argh!

Haha, I'm making the same but with Turrican

[Morkin]

Nice work everyone.

it's nice to see modern games dotted around the table. Will be interesting to see how everything pans out.

It's my top-100. I voted this way:

Positions 1 - 10: 10 points
11 - 25: 9 points
26 - 50: 8 points
51 - 100: 7 points

I was wondering whether to do something similar, but there's no way I could give any of the games in my personal top 100 games list less than an 8...! Will have a think...

[PeterJ]

Only a minor question. Can I see a list of what I have voted?

Hi [mention]+3code[/mention]

For now I can PM you that if you wish. Publishing everyone's votes publicly is straightforward, I just need to make sure everyone is happy with it. Will discuss again once the system has bedded in fully and we have resolved any further bugs that may come up.

[PeterJ]

Am I the only one who rather enjoys refreshing the results page every 30 seconds to see the rankings change! I need to get out more .....