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Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:26 pm
by Blerkotron
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:10 pm
by MatGubbins
This is great and well done for your first attempt in machine code.
Yup, found a bug though....
The flag counter can go from 0 to 255 if a numbered square is clicked on twice. I have a snapshot that I can email you.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:46 pm
by R-Tape
Great game, very polished.
I do like the Hero mode, a while back I wondered how to combine something like Pixel Quest with Minesweeper, but went down the pixel = mine route. This way works pretty nicely.
One thing though, I went up to the hard level and medium grid and bombed first attempt about 10 times in a row...
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:07 pm
by Blerkotron
MatGubbins wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:10 pm
This is great and well done for your first attempt in machine code.
Yup, found a bug though....
The flag counter can go from 0 to 255 if a numbered square is clicked on twice. I have a snapshot that I can email you.
Oops, I knew it was worth calling it a beta!
I'll check that out and get back to you for that snapshot if I have trouble reproducing it - thanks!
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:09 pm
by Blerkotron
R-Tape wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:46 pm
Great game, very polished.
I do like the Hero mode, a while back I wondered how to combine something like Pixel Quest with Minesweeper, but went down the pixel = mine route. This way works pretty nicely.
One thing though, I went up to the hard level and medium grid and bombed first attempt about 10 times in a row...
Yeah, that can be a problem with the Windows version too - I copied the level sizes and bomb density settings directly from that. I tried to be a bit fairer with the settings on the Hero levels, because I think standard 'hard' mode can seem a bit unfair at times.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:05 am
by Ralf
Congratulations on completing your first machine code project! I hope that you liked it and more will follow.
I don't have a chance to play it at the moment but I can alraedy say from the screenshots that I like the presentation. It was a nice touch to add some colours and backgrounds.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:46 pm
by Lorfarius
Looks amazing, know what I'll be playing when my Next arrives
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:04 pm
by Ralf
I played it. It's everything that Minesweeper should be, nothing more, nothing less.
Okay, maybe two things:
1) When you write your next game, think about adding some music. In the classic times we had mostly silence and some farts from beeper in Spectrum games but today if you want to do something really nice, music is must-have.
2) Heroes mode is a bit hard and unfair - there are small separate areas and you have to do too much completely wild guesses.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:47 pm
by jmk
Blerkotron wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:09 pm
R-Tape wrote: ↑Sun Nov 26, 2017 9:46 pm
One thing though, I went up to the hard level and medium grid and bombed first attempt about 10 times in a row...
Yeah, that can be a problem with the Windows version too - I copied the level sizes and bomb density settings directly from that. I tried to be a bit fairer with the settings on the Hero levels, because I think standard 'hard' mode can seem a bit unfair at times.
Nice work, I've had a bit of fun with this, although the Large map in Hard mode seems to be impossible to get going.
On the earlier versions of Windows Minesweeper (not sure about any of the later ones), it was rigged so that the first square you clicked was always blank.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:52 pm
by Juan F. Ramirez
Looks nice. I'll give it a try.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:32 pm
by Blerkotron
Ralf wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:04 pm
I played it. It's everything that Minesweeper should be, nothing more, nothing less.
Okay, maybe two things:
1) When you write your next game, think about adding some music. In the classic times we had mostly silence and some farts from beeper in Spectrum games but today if you want to do something really nice, music is must-have.
2) Heroes mode is a bit hard and unfair - there are small separate areas and you have to do too much completely wild guesses.
Music I would definitely like to look into, but that needs me to learn more about interrupts and to actually find someone with some musical talent (I have none!) so it'll either be a later update or the next game, I think.
Heroes mode was actually quite difficult to do - first to find sprites which actually worked okay as levels and then to balance how many mines should go into each. There are still some corners which are basically luck, I agree, but I tried to make those levels a little bit easier (perhaps not quite easy enough).
jmk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:47 pm
Nice work, I've had a bit of fun with this, although the Large map in Hard mode seems to be impossible to get going.
On the earlier versions of Windows Minesweeper (not sure about any of the later ones), it was rigged so that the first square you clicked was always blank.
Thanks! I've heard the comment about 'rigging' that first click a couple of times now, so I might take a look at it as an option for the 48K version. It should be quite straight-forward to do and the levels usually generate pretty quickly so hopefully there wouldn't be too much of a delay after that first click.
Incidentally I found and fixed the bug that [mention]MatGubbins[/mention] reported earlier (accidental SBC instead of SUB so occasionally the carry flag interfered with the result) so that'll be okay in the next version.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 10:08 am
by Ralf
Music I would definitely like to look into, but that needs me to learn more about interrupts and to actually find someone with some musical talent (I have none!) so it'll either be a later update or the next game, I think.
AS for music you could try to ask a man called Yerzmyey. He's on old World of Spectrum, he's very talented and did music for a lot of games in the past.
Or you can take some existing music. Actually there is a big archive of tunes written for Spectrum in the past and most of them were never used in any game. Most of them were done in the 90s in Russia and you can in practice consider them a kind of "abandonware".
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:24 pm
by RMartins
You can always "rig" the first click, just to open a 3x3 tile area centered around the tile the user clicked, without blowing up, hence avoiding to need to clear your designs in that area. Next clicks would work as usual.
However, for the "Hero Levels" you will still have trouble with very dense areas, since MineSweeper was not created with that kind of clustered areas in mind, since it does not work well with closed or walled areas, because then it becomes a lucky guess game, instead of a masterful click game
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:08 pm
by Blerkotron
Update time!
I've just released v1.0 - a couple of tweaks and bugfixes, and I've also implemented the much-asked-for "can't lose on your first click" mode. Downloads are again available from my itch.io page:
https://blerkotron.itch.io/minesweeper
Thanks to everyone who tried the first version, I've had some lovely feedback and it's great to see people actually playing and enjoying it.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 11:33 pm
by MatGubbins
Downloaded the new version and it looks as if the flag bug has been solved. Brilliant!
When the minefield has been solved it is very easy to press another key and return to the menu without seeing the final score flash. Would it be possible to have the score flash for a few seconds without accepting a key press and then afterwards accept it, that way the player knows they have won and look at the map for a few seconds.
Edit: OK, I've played it again with the sound on (I usually play puzzle games with sound off) and it emits a noise when won.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:47 am
by Blerkotron
I've done that a few times too but just thought it was me being cack-handed. I'll put a bit of a pause in there for the next version.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:15 am
by RMartins
When we fail, and blow up a mine, it would be nice to uncover the rest of the level, like the windows version does, so we can see where we went wrong.
Is the Blocky Avatar from "Byte Me" sprites by Craig Stevenson ?
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/pub/sinc ... eSheet.png
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 8:41 am
by Blerkotron
Yes, Craig is @hot_piping.
I've added revealing the level to the wish list, it should be very straight-forward to do.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:06 pm
by Morkin
Very nice conversion, slick and polished, pretty cool if it's your first machine code game. I'm very tempted to stick this on my DS for long train/coach journeys..
I was a bit wary of downloading it at first, as you can get drawn into playing this b*stard for hours..!
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:10 pm
by redballoon
Hello. That is me. As is @hot_piping.
Yes, they were never used in “Byte Me” and had been out of work until Blerk’s Minesweeper.
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:48 pm
by RMartins
Cool that those graphics have now been used instead of just being lost in the mist.
You might want to correct the entry of the "Byte Me" sprite sheet, and create a new one for this game
Re: Minesweeper 16/48
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:44 pm
by R-Tape
Blerkotron wrote: ↑Sat Dec 02, 2017 1:47 am
I've done that a few times too but just thought it was me being cack-handed. I'll put a bit of a pause in there for the next version.
You may know already but I find putting a 'nokey' check first useful:
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anykey: call nokey
xor a
aklp: in a,(254)
cpl
and 31
jr z,aklp
ret
;
nokey: xor a
in a,(254)
cpl
and 31
jr nz,nokey
ret
;
