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MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:58 pm
by Ralf
I know a lot of MIA stuff appeared recently so I won't be adding much more till next update. Just one game ;)

Actually it's better quality than most of stuff I found recently. Fluent, with AY music. It's called "Stena" in Russian which translates to "Wall" and is a Breakout/Arcanoid clone when you control some beam instead of ball. Multiple beams and different bonuses are also very common

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Name:Wall
Russian name: Stena
Year: 1992
Publisher: THD https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... l_id=14222

Authors:
Aleksandr Belousov https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... bel_id=598
Denis Filipov (in database as D.I Filipov) https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... el_id=3046
Andrey Tarasov

The download:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/yc5v1t

Re: MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:59 pm
by Andre Leao
It is Pulsoids, released in 1988 by Mastertronic, translated to russian :)

Re: MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:54 am
by Ralf
Oh well, thanks ;)

So the decision belongs now to admins, as before. Should we add it as mod or skip it ???

I believe it classifies as important/quality mod - loading screen, translation, some graphics retouched but I'll certainly accept other decision.

Re: MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:13 am
by R-Tape
Ralf wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:54 am Oh well, thanks ;)

So the decision belongs now to admins, as before. Should we add it as mod or skip it ???

I believe it classifies as important/quality mod - loading screen, translation, some graphics retouched but I'll certainly accept other decision.
I agree. There's a lot of work here that should be preserved. It's in the spreadsheet as a MOD ready for the next update (unless Einar disagrees).

Re: MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:45 am
by Alessandro
Weren't illegal translations/mods unsuitable to be listed in the database? E.g. like pirated and translated games published with Italian tape magazines (Load 'n' run, Special Program, Special Playgames, Tutto Spectrum etc.).

Re: MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 12:17 pm
by R-Tape
Alessandro wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:45 am Weren't illegal translations/mods unsuitable to be listed in the database? E.g. like pirated and translated games published with Italian tape magazines (Load 'n' run, Special Program, Special Playgames, Tutto Spectrum etc.).
I’m not the curator, and I suspect that Einar will pop along and correct me as usual :-), but I think there should be a place for MODs like this. IMO we shouldn’t focus a lot of effort into getting absolutely every MOD into the DB, but we shouldn’t put effort into excluding/removing it.

Re: MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:28 pm
by Andre Leao
Just my 2 cents: if the game is freeware (like Pulsoids), I see no problem in staying in the DB...

Re: MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:13 pm
by michellekg
Also it's not lost, it was well preserved on Virtual TR-DOS (https://vtrd.in). Look here for Стена: https://vtrd.in/games.php?t=full_ver Many Russian games (or translations or mods) are here.

But thanks anyway, Ralf, it really should be on ZXDB!

Re: MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:52 pm
by Ralf
Weren't illegal translations/mods unsuitable to be listed in the database? E.g. like pirated and translated games published with Italian tape magazines (Load 'n' run, Special Program, Special Playgames, Tutto Spectrum etc.).
Generally yes. That was the rule on old WOS when still Martijn ran it.

There were some exceptions like Harry Price's games as they were considered "belonging to history" ;)
And some good mods were actually added too, check for example for a Russian mod for Barbarian or Elite.

Here it is a different website if anyone didn't notice ;) so we may have different rules, even if unspoken.
I guess the rule here is - does the mod possess enough "added value" so it is worthy to be stored here in ZXDB.

Re: MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:08 pm
by Alessandro
Andre Leao wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:28 pm Just my 2 cents: if the game is freeware (like Pulsoids), I see no problem in staying in the DB...
:?: Excuse me Andre, but I don't see pulsoids being listed as freeware in its database entry.

On the other hand, I guess Strela could be included in the archive as a "mod" if it wasn't made for pirating purposes (as it's the case with La città fantasma instead), with the indication of the original title.

Re: MIA: Russian game Wall

Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:32 pm
by Andre Leao
Alessandro wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:08 pm
Andre Leao wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:28 pm Just my 2 cents: if the game is freeware (like Pulsoids), I see no problem in staying in the DB...
:?: Excuse me Andre, but I don't see pulsoids being listed as freeware in its database entry.
You´re right. I was looking at WoS...