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Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 11:41 am
by Ivanzx
hi all!

This is something I forgot for a long time., but today I remembered somehow that this game was released almost in silence, here is the link:

http://canadul.speccy.org/Toto.html

The group is Cañadul and the author José Miguel Ibáñez Rodríguez

Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 12:24 pm
by Alessandro
This does not seem able to run on an ordinary Spectrum. According to the description,

"Toto esta íntegramente echo en el lenguaje Forth Ace 6000, por tanto para poder jugar con el hay que disponer del Interface para juegos de 64 Kb.

Como este Interface no esta disponible aun, Se puede jugar con el Emulador de Jupiter Ace 6000."

(Toto is entirely made with the Forth Ace 6000 language, for this reason you need the 64 Kb game interface to play. Since this interface is not available yet, you can play with the Jupiter Ace 6000 emulator.)

The emulator can be downloaded from the same page but does not run, at least on my system - it returns an ActiveX error. The SNA file won't even load if you use the supplied ROM as custom 48K ROM in Spectaculator.

Unless someone finds a way to translate this into code that can be run on a proper Spectrum, I would leave it aside.

Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 12:48 pm
by druellan
This is quite interesting!
The game is a 64k SNA, and to be played you need to write both RAM and ROM. The author provides a Jupiter Ace 6000 ROM to be used to play the game, and an emulator: http://canadul.speccy.org/romace6000.html. The idea is to fire up the ROM and load the SNA as binary. I managed to do that using ZXSpin, but the game crashes.

BTW, the author has another 64k game, Astro 2008 (https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=18310) but the image on the database seems to have the 48k version only.

Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 12:53 pm
by druellan
Alessandro wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 12:24 pm This does not seem able to run on an ordinary Spectrum. According to the description,
Haha! we both tested the game at the same time.
I'm digging into it, so far I managed to load it on ZXSpin, but the result was a crash.

Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 2:02 pm
by druellan
Managed to make it work stripping the 27 bytes SNA header, but something is still missing. I managed to make it work using the provided ROM as Spectrum 48k, loading the .bin (check the link) in address 1 and then on address 0:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0zgzci0ezvr4i ... m.zip?dl=1

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Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 2:23 pm
by Ralf
Please people, turn it into something standard and working. I'm counting on you :)

Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 12:50 pm
by druellan
I have a full 48k SNA that works but I'm not sure it is complete. You still need the ROM Ace 6000 in place, since this game pretty much a Jupiter Ace game on Spectrum hardware. I included the SNA in the Dropbox ZIP above.

Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 1:14 pm
by Ivanzx
I also asked the authors how to make it work in a Spectrum :)

Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Thu May 09, 2019 1:27 pm
by druellan
Ivanzx wrote: Thu May 09, 2019 1:14 pm I also asked the authors how to make it work in a Spectrum :)
I can see on the blog that you need an interface with the new ROM, something very similar to a Mikro-plus.

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Source: https://www.va-de-retro.com/foros/viewt ... f=48&t=914

Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:24 am
by zxbruno
I remember downloading a Shadow of the Unicorn mod a few years ago and running it while emulating the +2A. I also remember someone from Spain playing it on a real +2A. Toto can probably be modified to run on a real or emulated +2A or later model, without the need for any interface.

Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:55 pm
by Hynreck
I don't remember what I did, but I convert it to a +3 snapshot... It works on many emulators and in real +3e using the SPECTRUM command...


http://www.mediafire.com/file/tnjecpgzp ... O.Z80/file

Can anyone make a TAP file from this snapshot?

Re: Toto, a uMIA game from spanish Homebrew group Cañadul

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:09 pm
by R-Tape
Hynreck wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:55 pm I don't remember what I did, but I convert it to a +3 snapshot... It works on many emulators and in real +3e using the SPECTRUM command...


http://www.mediafire.com/file/tnjecpgzp ... O.Z80/file

Can anyone make a TAP file from this snapshot?
Do you have a link to this game? Are you one of the authors? Your snapshot proves that it is a viable Speccy game, even though it technically needs the 64Kb interface; so I will give it a ZXDB ID.

The website shows a loading screen too, so it would be good if there could be an official TAP file of this game.

And does anyone know the ~release date for this game?