Black Mirror: Bandersnatch

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Bandersnatch is available on Netflix now:

"In 1984 a young programmer begins to question reality as he adapts a dark fantasy novel into a video game. A mind-bending tale with multiple endings."
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Juan F. Ramirez wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:54 pm It'd be amazing if the chapter started with

"BASED ON A TRUE STORY"

:mrgreen:
The website says:

"The people, places and actions depicted in this game are based on true events."
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chip-fork wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:35 pm i dont have netflix but they know how to tempt me!
I cancelled mine, but will have to do something about that. My mind's on the new Poirot in half an hour first!
Rorthron wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:09 pm There is a downloadable .tap file (Nohzdyve). I haven't tried it yet.

https://tuckersoft.net/ealing20541/nohzdyve/
I've got some catching up to do here.

Can anyone download that? If I hover over the link, I can see a .tap at the end of it, but it's only possible to download a .html... (even with 'Save Target As')
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R-Tape wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:29 pm
chip-fork wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:35 pm i dont have netflix but they know how to tempt me!
I cancelled mine, but will have to do something about that. My mind's on the new Poirot in half an hour first!
Rorthron wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:09 pm There is a downloadable .tap file (Nohzdyve). I haven't tried it yet.

https://tuckersoft.net/ealing20541/nohzdyve/
I've got some catching up to do here.

Can anyone download that? If I hover over the link, I can see a .tap at the end of it, but it's only possible to download a .html... (even with 'Save Target As')
I have the .tap. Tapped on the link in Chrome for Android.
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Now the whole Nohzdyve webpage has disappeared!
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Rorthron wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:35 pm I have the .tap. Tapped on the link in Chrome for Android.
Ta, got it via mobile.
Rorthron wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:38 pm Now the whole Nohzdyve webpage has disappeared!
Still there for me.

This could be an interesting ZXDB entry! If anyone can help us regarding distribution permissions could they get in touch...
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Bandersnatch will not work on Chromecast or Apple TV:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/28/181 ... es-support

The Nohzdyve Spectrum game:

https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/28/181 ... y-emulator

(I wasn't aware Brooker used to write for PC Zone.)
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R-Tape wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:44 pm Ta, got it via mobile.
Have you tried it?
R-Tape wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:44 pm
Rorthron wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:38 pm Now the whole Nohzdyve webpage has disappeared!
Still there for me.
Back for me, too, but the Bandersnatch game page has now disappeared.
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Rorthron wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:20 pm
Juan F. Ramirez wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:54 pm It'd be amazing if the chapter started with

"BASED ON A TRUE STORY"

:mrgreen:
The website says:

"The people, places and actions depicted in this game are based on true events."
LOL

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Now waiting for a new Black Mirror episode: Mire Mare! :mrgreen:
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Love the fact that all these games are based on previous Black Mirror episodes:-

https://tuckersoft.net/ealing20541/history/
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Rorthron wrote: Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:04 pm
Have you tried it?
Yep. It's a challenging descending game by gasman!

There's some unusual code in here, and I wonder if it relates to the black mirror episode (still need to watch it). The crafty bugger even included some rudimentary antihack measures.

Ahem :
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I watched it this morning and thoroughly enjoyed it. The choice system is simple but works really really well. I’m going to watch it again to make different choices.

It’s a superb nod to the speecy era and well worth a watch.
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I'm back on Netflix's books, and have nearly used up my broadband for the month. It was well worth it.

I suspect that a substantial portion of the Black Mirror audience will feel alienated by the retro theme, and find it too experimental, but for the everyone else—holy ****ing sh*t! That was amazing!

I hope a 'making of' gets released.
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:shock: How many Spectrums were harmed in the making of this? :shock:
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I did enjoy it, though I wasn't particularly grabbed by the 'choose your own path' novelty, it was more about the Speccy-laden nostalgia.. :D

...If I'd known how fast BASIC seemed to be back then, I might have persevered with it a bit longer.. :lol:
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At the end of the film Stefan puts Bandersnatch Demo datasette into his player and we hear data playback without interference of any other sounds. I'm pretty sure this is meant to be fed as datasette playback into a Spectrum. The data stream in the film is about 42 seconds long, so most likely not a large program but perhaps an easter egg message.

Now, I don't own a Spectrum, I came here to ask you guys to see for yourself and share what you discover in the data stream. I actually captured the audio data stream off the video into a .wav file and tried feeding it into Fuse emulator, but I didn't see any meaningful result. It's just cycling the datasette. Then again, I've never used it before, so maybe I'm doing something wrong. Or was I suppose to slice it into several files?

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Someone already did it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBJNXzfZ4pw
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r00tb33r wrote: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:39 am At the end of the film Stefan puts Bandersnatch Demo datasette into his player and we hear data playback without interference of any other sounds.
Damn. How did I miss that?!

Would you be willing to make the .wav available?

[mention]Einar Saukas[/mention], can you see how Bandersnatch or this bonus material could fit in ZXDB?
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R-Tape wrote: Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:43 am Would you be willing to make the .wav available?
I would: Bandersnatch Extra. This is both the audio and the TZX generated from it. (The audio in the film repeats, so this is just the first part.)
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Love how many cool Spectrum 'easter eggs' there are in the episode, like the Spectrum keyboard or the guy reading Crash, posted above. Or lots of Chuckie Egg tapes on the shelves:

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Downloaded and watched this a couple of days ago, obviously being the downloaded "movie" it didn't give me any choices.

Besides the speccy references I found it pretty dull to be honest.
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beanz wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:52 pm Downloaded and watched this a couple of days ago, obviously being the downloaded "movie" it didn't give me any choices.
How did it work if there were no choices? There are numerous endings for example.

For me, most of the interest came from it being interactive.
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R-Tape wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:02 pm
beanz wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:52 pm Downloaded and watched this a couple of days ago, obviously being the downloaded "movie" it didn't give me any choices.
How did it work if there were no choices? There are numerous endings for example.

For me, most of the interest came from it being interactive.
I wasn't 100% aware of the choices thing till after I'd seen it and read a few reviews etc of it. It just paused briefly and then continued..I know many scenes replayed when he made a bad decision...(ETA: the cereal choice didn't replay..I guess that wasn't a big deal and just got you used to the choices thing). I don't know if that was in the "movie" or a way to show the different choices but it basically rewound and then fast forwarded to the decision point so it did show several endings. I'd lost interest by then though...it was on but I wasn't really paying attention to it anymore.

If you take out the gimmick it's pretty dull (imo)
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beanz wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:06 pm
R-Tape wrote: Wed Jan 02, 2019 5:02 pm How did it work if there were no choices? There are numerous endings for example.

For me, most of the interest came from it being interactive.
I wasn't 100% aware of the choices thing till after I'd seen it and read a few reviews etc of it. It just paused briefly and then continued..I know many scenes replayed when he made a bad decision...(ETA: the cereal choice didn't replay..I guess that wasn't a big deal and just got you used to the choices thing). I don't know if that was in the "movie" or a way to show the different choices but it basically rewound and then fast forwarded to the decision point so it did show several endings. I'd lost interest by then though...it was on but I wasn't really paying attention to it anymore.

If you take out the gimmick it's pretty dull (imo)
Whole thing was about 1hr 45 mins or so long...so I guess you can tell from that if it included all/some of the decisions.
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Ast A. Moore wrote: Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:41 am
I would: Bandersnatch Extra. This is both the audio and the TZX generated from it. (The audio in the film repeats, so this is just the first part.)
Thanks a lot! Can anyone suggest a good name for the ZXDB entry for this? Bandersnatch Extra? Bandersnatch Easter Egg? Tuckersoft QR?

It's got this at the end of the code btw...

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