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Feature: Border effects
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:38 pm
by zx81
On ZXDB exist a feature type called "Rainbow Graphics", inherited from WoS. But doesn't exist any feature named "Border effects" to signal those games that do any interesting effect in border, exactly as Vectron, Aquaplane, Beach Head II, The Sentinel, Paperboy, Super Wonder Boy and many others.
Would be interesting to add it?
I vote yes.
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:59 am
by Einar Saukas
I'm also voting yes!
Could someone please help identify the other programs that should be included in this category?
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:37 am
by Joefish
Jaws had a border colour split on the title screen intended to line up with attributes, but the timing didn't adjust so it was in the wrong place on a 48K (although I think my memory might be of a magazine demo rather than the final release).
My
River Raid Tech Demo draws the bridge roads into the border.
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Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 10:53 am
by Ralf
There wouldn't be really many games with such effects.
Demos, on the other hand, are a different story.
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:21 pm
by druellan
Einar Saukas wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:59 am
Could someone please help identify the other programs that should be included in this category?
I can start gathering them.
To be clear, we have: games that have some sort of border effect, like Birds and the Bees:
Games that sync the border on a basic way:
or more complex ways, like letters:
The idea is to group all of them, right?
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:21 pm
by zx81
Vectron
Super Wonder Boy
Gutz
Biff
Dark Star
Paperboy
Academy
Beach Head II
Venom Strikes Back
TV Game
Hundra
Starion
Octagon Squad
Pippo
Expedice
Defenders of the Earth
and Aquaplane / The Sentinel /Jaws of course.
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Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:39 pm
by Einar Saukas
druellan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:21 pm
The idea is to group all of them, right?
Yes. Please create a new group called "Border Effects" (group type "Feature"), then add these titles as members.
Thank you!
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:48 pm
by Einar Saukas
Also:
Gnarly Simon
Rotatrix
BorderTrix
Knights & Demons DX
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Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:52 pm
by zx81
Einar Saukas wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:48 pm
Also:
Gnarly Simon
Rotatrix
BorderTrix
Knights & Demons DX
Rotatrix & BorderTrix are technical demos more than games. When you includes demos then add others as Shock Megademo & Overscan.
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Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:08 pm
by druellan
Einar Saukas wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:39 pm
druellan wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:21 pm
The idea is to group all of them, right?
Yes. Please create a new group called "Border Effects" (group type "Feature"), then add these titles as members.
Great!
Also:
- Pud Pud
Chuckman
Excalibur
Skoll Daze
Back to Skool
Contact Sam Cruise (I think)
Locomotion (has a very particular "fake" loading effect)
Bugaboo
There are games that have very simple border changes, when you got hit, like
I'm also counting those.
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Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:12 pm
by Einar Saukas
zx81 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:52 pm
Einar Saukas wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 3:48 pm
Also:
Gnarly Simon
Rotatrix
BorderTrix
Knights & Demons DX
Rotatrix & BorderTrix are technical demos more than games. When you includes demos then add others as Shock Megademo & Overscan.
Actually Rotatrix is a development tool, not a tech demo.
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:53 pm
by Turtle_Quality
My own Mazeball falls into that Birds and Bees category of border stripes just being a mildly distracting effect of generating sound fx, but I think you would many other games that do the same
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:17 pm
by Ralf
Defender of the Crown (
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 96&id=1321)
Press space at the menu to see the Hungarian Flag at the border
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:09 pm
by Turtle_Quality
There was one game that had a countdown (54321) where the numbers used the whole screen, can't remember the game now just remember being seriously impressed.
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:27 pm
by druellan
Turtle_Quality wrote: ↑Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:09 pm
There was one game that had a countdown (54321) where the numbers used the whole screen, can't remember the game now just remember being seriously impressed.
Probably Starion
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 96&id=4870 ?
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:01 am
by zx81
Add MIG Busters to the list
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Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:28 am
by PQR
Black Hawk is part of the “Birds and the Bees” category.
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Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:41 am
by Ersh
I remembered Barbarian II having some neat stable border rasters when you completed the game but looking at youtube and the RZX-Archive recording there were none. So I checked my personal ending save state folder, found the Barbarian 2 ending and lo there were rasters. Perhaps they only appear when played on a 48k, seems the 128k just plays music instead.
Here's the rasters:
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Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:31 am
by g0blinish
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:26 pm
by R-Tape
There are times I think I'm a hopelessly disorganised tosser...
Ersh wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:41 am
So I checked my personal ending save state folder
...this is one of those times.
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:35 am
by druellan
Ersh wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:41 am
I remembered Barbarian II having some neat stable border rasters when you completed the game but looking at youtube and the RZX-Archive recording there were none. So I checked my personal ending save state folder, found the Barbarian 2 ending and lo there were rasters. Perhaps they only appear when played on a 48k, seems the 128k just plays music instead.
Here's the rasters:
Oh! Good catch!
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 2:18 am
by druellan
More titles!
Draughts Genius
Expedice (also multicolor)
Extreme
Friday the 13th
Jack and the Beanstalk
Giant's Revenge
Rescate Atlantida
Defenda
Swords and Sorcery
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Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 12:51 am
by druellan
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 7:56 am
by ASH-II
Re: Feature: Border effects
Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2019 1:15 pm
by Alessandro
Sophia and
Sophia II both feature border effects:
- the first when Sophia drops a skull into the cauldron;
- the second when end-of-level bosses are defeated.
The code for this effect is based on a similar routine found in
Mega-Buck$, which should then be added to the list as well.
Border effect also are used in
Spellbound, Knight Tyme and
Stormbringer whenever Magic Knight casts a spell.
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