Little bugs in the database 4

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Re: Little bugs in the database 4

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Hi @MatGubbins,

@Einar Saukas will know the exact reason for this link to Wizball, but to get just titles published by Codemasters you need to enter Codemasters into the Publisher box, then choose strict results from the results strictness box.

There was a long discussion about something similar a few weeks ago which is why we released the results strictness.

I'm sure Einar will come up with the goods.

Good spot by the way @MatGubbins!
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Audionautas wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:24 am


The problem here is that if you search by year on the ZXDB, in this case 1993, Dalek Attack is missing, and I think is really important to set right which was the last Spectrum game released, even though it seems that it was finally sold via mail order, not retail.
It's not the last Spectrum game released though, there are re-releases from Alternative and The Hit Squad after that. Plus you've got publishers like Zenobi who carried on even longer.
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PeterJ wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:38 am
Hi @MatGubbins,

@Einar Saukas will know the exact reason for this link to Wizball, but to get just titles published by Codemasters you need to enter Codemasters into the Publisher box, then choose strict results from the results strictness box.

There was a long discussion about something similar a few weeks ago which is why we released the results strictness.

I'm sure Einar will come up with the goods.

Good spot by the way @MatGubbins!
It's because ZXDB thinks Codemasters own Sensible Software.
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Good spot @StooB . Codemasters did acquire them. So you need to use the strict search as mentioned previously.

I understand the issue about points in time @StooB , but we just don't have the resources, time, volunteers, or the complete information to ever go down that road. It is noted though.

Strict search was introduced as a partial answer to the issue.
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Just to suggest a correction for these two titles, Galaksija Emulator and Space Invaders Emulator.
Both titles are + 2A/+3 compatible only, do not work with 128k or +2 machines.

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... a_Emulator
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... s_Emulator
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And new and more appropriate screenshot suggestion, for Galaksija Emulator. :)

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StooB wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:49 am

It's not the last Spectrum game released though, there are re-releases from Alternative and The Hit Squad after that. Plus you've got publishers like Zenobi who carried on even longer.
Yes, I know all that, but I disagree.

* Dalek Attack was a game intended for a release in stores, as all the other versions of the game, except the Spectrum version, that after a lot of delay, it was finally released (via mail order, though), thanks to popular demand.

* Unlike those Hit Squad or Alternative Software reissues, this was a new game. Most probably the last new game intended for retail.

* Yes, Zenobi released new text adventures until 1997 or so. They sold a lot of games through mail order, but did it that way all over its existence. The same goes for Ultrasoft in Slovakia and Czech Republic until 1995 or so. They sold several hundreds, maybe thousands, of some of their games, but as far as I know, they did it by mail order too (also according to author and expert Jaroslav Švelch: https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/gaming-iron-curtain). The same goes for some Russian games produced over the 90's al 00's, and obviously the same goes for the homebrew games released by Cronosoft, Bitmap Soft, Matra or Monument Microgames amongst others in limited runs all over the last ten or fifteen years. But I don't think it's the same case here.

In my humble opinion Dalek Attack is a game of significant historical importance for the Spectrum (despite its average quality), because it was the last new game released by an established software house focused on retail sales and also it was the last new Spectrum game reviewed by a major Spectrum magazine (Your Sinclair).

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You can't say Dalek Attack was the definitely the last "new game" "intended for release in stores" without knowing Alternative's exact release schedule. It could be Playdays!
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Audionautas wrote:
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* Dalek Attack was a game intended for a release in stores, as all the other versions of the game, except the Spectrum version, that after a lot of delay, it was finally released (via mail order, though), thanks to popular demand.
It's an important game, for sure, and deserves to be remembered as one of the last, big name releases. And the year of release should definitely be fixed in the database. :)

But your argument that it was the last "retail" game for the ZX Spectrum is flawed if it was never actually released in a retail store and was only available by mail order.

All this "retail versus mail order" stuff is nonsense, anyway. A commercial game is a commercial game, no matter how it was sold. If someone is selling a game for money then it is a commercial game. There were Zenobi games that sold far more copies than Dalek Attack ever sold.

Many, many, many of the big ZX Spectrum companies started off as mail order only firms. A huge chunk of ZX Spectrum games and software either started out as mail order titles or were only ever available by post. In the latter years of the Spectrum, many of the games were not stocked in most retail shops.

In years to come, when we look back on the history of video games, the period in which video games were sold in physical stores will be tiny.
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Re: Little bugs in the database 4

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Hi, we will certainly change the year to 1993, but will continue to work through the earlier reports first.
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