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The page for Adventure by Nigel Brooks
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... /Adventure

...has magazine references that do not refer to that specific Spectrum port of the game, but to the original mainframe game (or other conversions of that game) and should be removed as many of these reference pre-date the release of the Nigel Brooks Spectrum conversion by several years...

Namely...
C&VG (Computer & Video Games)#30 - 1984/4114 (PDF) (VIEW)Feature
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 1&page=114

Micro Adventurer#12 - 1984/1011 (PDF) (VIEW)Feature - First adventure
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 13&page=11

Micro Adventurer#14 - 1984/124 (PDF) (VIEW)Letters
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 115&page=4

Popular Computing Weeklyv.2 #13 - 1983/3/31 - "week#5"27 (PDF) (VIEW)Feature
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 48&page=27

Popular Computing Weeklyv.2 #22 - 1983/6/2 - "week#1"41 (PDF) (VIEW)Feature - Tony Bridge's Adventure Corner
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 57&page=41

Popular Computing Weeklyv.2 #36 - 1983/9/8 - "week#2"37 (PDF) (VIEW)Feature
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 71&page=37

Sinclair User#23 - 1984/2135 (PDF) (VIEW)Feature - Mind Games ...
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 3&page=135

Sinclair User#32 - 1984/11146 (PDF) (VIEW)Feature - Adventure feature
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 2&page=146

Which Micro? & Software Review1983/484Feature
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 05&page=84

*THIS* is the only reference from that magazine reference section that refers to the Nigel Brooks Adventure...
Popular Computing Weeklyv.5 #49 - 1986/12/4 - "week#1"24 (PDF) (VIEW)News/Note
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 37&page=24

NB: All the references in the *Magazine Reviews* section *are* correct.

Also... *see post below*
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Connected to the above...

The Serf's Tale
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/6 ... Serfs_Tale

Tony Bridge's PCW column states that this would be released in time for Christmas 1986.
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 37&page=24

The current date of release in the database is 1987. There is a copyright notice on the back of the inlay that mentions 1987 so 1987 should probably remain as the date of release. *no change necessary; although my gut feeling is that this was prepared in time for Christmas 1986

However...

The Serf's Tale needs a *derived from* connection to...
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... /Adventure

...as they are basically the same game.

You may even consider combining the entries. I would.

The reviews on the back of The Serf's Tale inlay are actually reviews of the original release of the game under the title Adventure.
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 8&page=104
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 3&page=151
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According to this review...
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 82&page=30

There was a second text & graphics version of the text adventure
The Adventures of Barsak the Dwarf
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/5 ... _the_Dwarf

...which was self-published by the authors in 1985
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.php?cat=999
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.php?cat=999

An appropriate re-release entry needs to be added to the game entry.

I'm unsure if you are able to tag the game both text-only and text-illustrated.
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Hi! @Audionautas something interesting: The Clone by K. Burkhill - https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... /The_Clone A type-in tape duplication tool published in 1984 on Your Computer: https://archive.org/stream/your-compute ... 2/mode/1up

Now, on the magazine you can read: K. Burkhill, Deeside, Clwyd. Clwyd is in Wales, so, could be Keith Burkhill himself?

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Slaine: https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/4 ... rum/Slaine has some complete credits inside the game, including roles:

Image

So, the author list can be completed with:

Neil Dodwell: Design
Jason Austin -- Design, Code
Dave Dew -- Design, In-game graphics
Glenn Fabry -- Cover art
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druellan wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:47 am

Hi! @Audionautas something interesting: The Clone by K. Burkhill - https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... /The_Clone A type-in tape duplication tool published in 1984 on Your Computer: https://archive.org/stream/your-compute ... 2/mode/1up

Now, on the magazine you can read: K. Burkhill, Deeside, Clwyd. Clwyd is in Wales, so, could be Keith Burkhill himself?
Oh! absolutely, I'm pretty sure is him. According to this coverage of Space Harrier (https://archive.org/details/ComputerAnd ... 3/mode/2up), he talks about Rhyl, also in Wales. For that reason I assumed on previous researching about him that he lived there at the time, but it's not too far away from Clwyd (15-20 kilometers), both in North Wales. Likewise, how many K.Burkhill lived in North Wales and were coders at the time?

Anyway, it's not odd to come across on magazines this kind of utility programs written by famous coders in years to come. By January 1984 (month/year of that Your Computer issue), Burkhill had only done Missile Defence for Anirog, so it was a newcomer yet. I would add this utility to his softography.

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Audionautas wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:10 am
Oh! absolutely, I'm pretty sure is him. According to this coverage of Space Harrier (https://archive.org/details/ComputerAnd ... 3/mode/2up), he talks about Rhyl, also in Wales. For that reason I assumed on previous researching about him that he lived there at the time, but it's not too far away from Clwyd (15-20 kilometers), both in North Wales. Likewise, how many K.Burkhill lived in North Wales and were coders at the time?
Clwyd isn't a place (if you've been using Google to work out distances then you've probably been using the river! :D)

Clwyd is an old county name. Rhyl was in Clwyd, when that county existed. There were quite a lot of North Wales coders but, yes, it's extremely likely it's the same guy.
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The date of release for Colossal Cave
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... ossal_Cave

should be 1984 (not 1985)

The November 1985 PCW column linked on that entry says it was produced 18 months ago, and the advertising linked on the entry is from May 1984.
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8BitAG wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:22 am

Clwyd isn't a place (if you've been using Google to work out distances then you've probably been using the river! :D)

Clwyd is an old county name. Rhyl was in Clwyd, when that county existed. There were quite a lot of North Wales coders but, yes, it's extremely likely it's the same guy.
Oh! thanks for the clarification. Yes, I used Google to work out distances, in this case between Deeside and Rhyl, but I took miles instead of kilometers, so it's a little bit more far away than I said previously.

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Audionautas wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:33 am
Oh! thanks for the clarification. Yes, I used Google to work out distances, in this case between Deeside and Rhyl, but I took miles instead of kilometers, so it's a little bit more far away than I said previously.
I live nearby. :)
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