Little bugs in the database 4

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Re: Little bugs in the database 4

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8BitAG wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:01 pm
StooB wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:50 pm
There doesn't appear to be any evidence of it also being supplied via the Home Computer Club - it definitely wasn't in my copy at the time.
Is it currently in the database? I have a digital copy of it.
Yes, there's a pdf in the downloads section of the GAC entry, but if it was sold separately it should really have its own entry.
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Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:05 pm
Yes, there's a pdf in the downloads section of the GAC entry, but if it was sold separately it should really have its own entry.
I wonder if their Adventure Designer Pad should also be listed in the database.

Edit: In addition to the adventure news articles you posted links to, the Adventure Writer's Handbook is specifically mentioned as being available separately in one of their adverts so, yes, definitely needs its own entry...

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https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... el_id=8230
L.G. Baumann is from the Republic of South Africa, according to author's comment on zxart.
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Re: Little bugs in the database 4

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Some amendments for Stefan Vogt's games:

The Curse of Rabenstein (+3 version)
The Curse of Rabenstein (ZX Spectrum Next version)

These should have each other added as an Other Version.

The ZX Spectrum Next entry is missing the remote link that the +3 version has: https://8bitgames.itch.io/rabenstein/de ... nstein-out

The game is authored with DAAD.

The game is also on the following formats (links where available):
C64
Plus/4: http://plus4world.powweb.com/software/T ... Rabenstein
CPC: https://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?pag ... &num=17444
Amiga: http://www.lemonamiga.com/games/details.php?id=4424
Atari ST: https://www.atarilegend.com/games/games ... me_id=7540
DOS


Hibernated 1: This Place is Death

Remote link for this game: https://8bitgames.itch.io/hibernated1

The game is also on the following formats:
C64: http://www.gb64.com/game.php?id=27443
Plus/4: http://plus4world.powweb.com/software/Hibernated_1
CPC: https://www.cpc-power.com/index.php?pag ... &num=15220
MSX
Amiga
Atari ST: https://www.atarilegend.com/games/games ... me_id=7348
DOS


Eight Feet Under

The game is also on the following formats:
C64
Plus/4: http://plus4world.powweb.com/software/Eight_Feet_Under
CPC
MSX
Amiga
Atari ST
DOS


Eight Feed Under is marked as "Distribution denied - still for sale", whereas the others have no availability given at all (but don't have downloads listed in ZXDB either). Since all the games are made available on a pay-what-you-want basis, should they all be "Distribution denied - still for sale"?
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Note: The version listed on Spectrum Computing is the initial PAWed 2018 version of Hibernated 1, and not the later 2019 boxed/digital release that was made with DAAD. Information about the DAAD version has not yet been added to that entry even though it includes the physical box image.
Eight Feed Under is marked as "Distribution denied - still for sale", whereas the others have no availability given at all (but don't have downloads listed in ZXDB either). Since all the games are made available on a pay-what-you-want basis, should they all be "Distribution denied - still for sale"?
Eight Feet Under was originally an exclusive with physical editions of Hibernated 1; which is where the distribution denied comment came from. The bonus adventure has since been made more widely available.
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Re: Little bugs in the database 4

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8BitAG wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:25 pm
Note: The version listed on Spectrum Computing is the initial PAWed 2018 version of Hibernated 1, and not the later 2019 boxed/digital release that was made with DAAD. Information about the DAAD version has not yet been added to that entry even though it includes the physical box image.
Ah I see -- I wonder if the two versions ought to be listed separately then? Being developed in 2 different engines probably makes them more different to each other than, say, Chess and Masterchess?
8BitAG wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 4:25 pm
Eight Feed Under is marked as "Distribution denied - still for sale", whereas the others have no availability given at all (but don't have downloads listed in ZXDB either). Since all the games are made available on a pay-what-you-want basis, should they all be "Distribution denied - still for sale"?
Eight Feet Under was originally an exclusive with physical editions of Hibernated 1; which is where the distribution denied comment came from. The bonus adventure has since been made more widely available.
In which case I guess it probably makes more sense to remove the "Distribution denied" notice rather than add it to the others?
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Stu wrote:
Fri Aug 07, 2020 6:48 pm
Ah I see -- I wonder if the two versions ought to be listed separately then? Being developed in 2 different engines probably makes them more different to each other than, say, Chess and Masterchess?
No, I think the current DB policy is for them to be listed under the same entry. I generally agree with the decision in these sorts of cases; although I have argued differently for games where the two versions/editions of the adventures are much more different.

The PAW and DAAD versions in this case are actually very similar; and they both were developed from the original C64 Quilled version. The three generations of "Gilsoft" tools share common DNA.

I often prototype my stuff on the PAW before converting it to DAAD (if I want to move it onto other platforms). It's basically fundementally the same database.
In which case I guess it probably makes more sense to remove the "Distribution denied" notice rather than add it to the others?
Yes, definitely. Just external link to the game page for the downloads, instead of hosting the files, the same as with the other titles.
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Re: Little bugs in the database 4

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About this German game:

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/2 ... _Labyrinth

I know the game states 1983, but it can't have been released that year. Take the serial number on the spines of the games from that company, and you get this:

1257 Physik-Lernprogram 1983
1258 Zeichensätze 1984
1259 Unifile 1984
1262 3D Labyrinth 1983

With the highest serial number, it can't have been released before the two games from 1984 with lower serial number. I've checked the two 1984 programs, and they state 1984 in the program.

So, I think we can conclude that 3D Labyrinth might have been written in 1983, but it must have been released in 1984+

BTW, I'm about to submit uMIA 1260 from that company :-)
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Wed Aug 12, 2020 6:09 pm
This game:
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/7 ... um/Wamwort
isn't from Dinamic.
Yeah, we just have it listed under the author's own name on CASA. (The external link on that page gives a good overview of the background of the various different versions of the adventure)
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