What in the hell is a .BAS file?

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PeterJ wrote:
Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:06 pm
You could also use this @TMD2003 and @Rev_Stuart_Campbell:

http://freestuff.grok.co.uk/zxtext2p/index.html

As mentioned above, renaming the file and loading into EightyOne worked for me also.
Nope, crashed with "line 186: missing line number".
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@Rev_Stuart_Campbell,

I will check today and save the resulting .p for you if it plays.
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Hi @Rev_Stuart_Campbell,

The program runs. However its not as expected because parts of the listing are missing. This is the page from CVG:

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/page.ph ... 70&page=42

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The BASIC listing just has the following for those print statements that print the track, so it would need a little work to get it running.

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11 PRINT " "
20 PRINT " "
30 PRINT " "
40 PRINT " "
50 PRINT " "
60 PRINT " "
70 PRINT " "
80 PRINT " "
90 PRINT " "
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Yeah, that's what I got. So the file on TTF is completely worthless :(
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Rev_Stuart_Campbell wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:23 am
Yeah, that's what I got. So the file on TTF is completely worthless :(
About 50% useless :D

We have learnt that you can load BAS files into EightyOne though, which is a positive.
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To be fair, plain text / ASCII text files can’t include ZX80 or ZX81 graphics characters directly, because these machines don’t use ASCII. They each use their own unique character set.

There are methods of including graphic characters, but this is done by having a special sequence of characters. Obviously this does not help though if the original file does not include all the listing.

I’m sure someone will take on the challenge and help you out in due course.

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Completely baffled as to why someone would go to the enormous amount of trouble of typing in dozens of old magazine listings and then save them in a totally useless format that's no good for anything unless people go and find the old magazine for themselves and type in the other half... :?
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Do you know what I'm even more baffled about?

How The Type Fantastic has existed for 19 years and is still only one-third complete - despite the number of Spectrum enthusiasts that have been active over that time. Of course, now the chances are it'll never get any further. If you think of how much has been achieved in scanning, TZXing, indexing and the like, was it just that the majority of Spectrum users with the time to contribute thought "oh, well, if we've got the magazines scanned, that'll be fine for preservation purposes"?

Maybe if it had been an official WOS project from its inception, rather than JimG's hobby, it might have been finished long before the DRAMA kicked in.
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TMD2003 wrote:
Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:12 pm
Maybe if it had been an official WOS project from its inception, rather than JimG's hobby, it might have been finished long before the DRAMA kicked in.
There is an official Type-In Project on WoS (managed by me for the first few years). It never received as many type-ins as I thought it would, although I'm equally grateful that it received for all the type-ins that it did! Jim of Type Fantastic had actually taken over the project, so in some sense there is some unification of the process. Unfortunately, as you pointed out, perhaps this should have been the way from the get go but for whatever reason Type Fantastic and WoS have operated at odds rather than together.

I'm unsure if all programs from TF have made their way to WoS but it may not be a bad idea to incorporate SC as part of Jim's upload process so that type-ins appear on both WoS and SC (and obviously TF) when Jim uploads them? Presuming he isn't opposed to it and that SC wants type-ins ...
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