Mario Kart
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Re: Mario Kart
Great idea! Mario Kart is such a brilliant game, and despite its 3D roads, it has a simple, cheerful, sprite-based style that I think would feel at home on the Speccy.
Long ago, I would have thought a game like that completely impossible on the Speccy, but after seeing the speed of the 1997 Doom Pre-Release (and the similar "The Dark"), who knows?
If anyone wanted, I'd be happy to provide accurate AY music for such a project. I love the Mario Kart music and had thought about recreating it on the Speccy (as I've done with other games).
Long ago, I would have thought a game like that completely impossible on the Speccy, but after seeing the speed of the 1997 Doom Pre-Release (and the similar "The Dark"), who knows?
If anyone wanted, I'd be happy to provide accurate AY music for such a project. I love the Mario Kart music and had thought about recreating it on the Speccy (as I've done with other games).
Re: Mario Kart
I trust you've all seen this? Not Mario Kart, but a "demake" of SNES Mode 7 racer F-Zero... i.e. very similar concept!
From a technical point of view, it's very impressive. Fun to play too, unlike a number of "tech demo" games!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSQaR9e ... =emb_title
Download link: https://voxeltower.itch.io/spaceracing
Discussion here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5964
From a technical point of view, it's very impressive. Fun to play too, unlike a number of "tech demo" games!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSQaR9e ... =emb_title
Download link: https://voxeltower.itch.io/spaceracing
Discussion here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=5964
Re: Mario Kartr
Power Drift technically started the whole 3d karting genre and it got a pretty decent conversion on the spectrum.
https://youtu.be/FGkPhPhcB8Y
I’m sure the same engine could have coped with the original SNES Mario Kart levels, although the thing that made Mario Kart stand out was the AI of the other racers. It also set up a truly competitive championship with one or two main competitors. Could the Spectrum do that? The other thing that could have been improved on Powerdrift was making each of the karts look more unique, it was pretty hard to tell who you were overtaking.
https://youtu.be/FGkPhPhcB8Y
I’m sure the same engine could have coped with the original SNES Mario Kart levels, although the thing that made Mario Kart stand out was the AI of the other racers. It also set up a truly competitive championship with one or two main competitors. Could the Spectrum do that? The other thing that could have been improved on Powerdrift was making each of the karts look more unique, it was pretty hard to tell who you were overtaking.
Re: Mario Kart
Power Drift is still basically an into the screen racer on the Speccy, I'm not sure it could have pulled off the kinds of sharp bends that make Mario Kart work.
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It seems to me that perhaps Alone Coder's 3D engine in https://www.spectrumcomputing.co.uk/for ... 3&start=90 might be pretty close to being able to doing the task. With the demo at 3.5 Mhz, you can come pretty close to being a racing game even if the frame rate is slower. I just tried racing around the squares in the demo and was quite playable.
At 7 mhz it certainly can be turned into a Mario Kart type game.
At 7 mhz it certainly can be turned into a Mario Kart type game.
Re: Mario Kart
That is impressive!andydansby wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:00 pm It seems to me that perhaps Alone Coder's 3D engine in https://www.spectrumcomputing.co.uk/for ... 3&start=90 might be pretty close to being able to doing the task. With the demo at 3.5 Mhz, you can come pretty close to being a racing game even if the frame rate is slower. I just tried racing around the squares in the demo and was quite playable.
At 7 mhz it certainly can be turned into a Mario Kart type game.
Re: Mario Kart
Looking at the SNES resolution (256x224) and the area used by each player, a single player mario kart type game would be awesome. Space Racing as a F Zero demake is an incredible achievement on a standard speccy. On the NEXT it could be amazing if you turbo the z80...
Just looking back at some mock ups I've been wondering what it could look like for the last decade!!!
Just looking back at some mock ups I've been wondering what it could look like for the last decade!!!
Re: Mario Kart
Surely it needs to be multi-player?
Re: Mario Kart
What I mean is, if you're thinking of multiplayer then you don't want to start out with a full-screen game design; especially when it comes to setting the size of the sprites. You need to consider some sort of windowed view from the outset.
What may be a good start is, instead of trying to reproduce Mode 7, develop an engine that can fill (or erase, from a stippled field) black rectangles mapped onto the ground in 3D (either handling distorted quads, or splitting into two triangles), and make the course out of those, keeping each one as large as possible (i.e. a long straight is just one rectangle).
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Re: Mario Kart
That is AWESOME BiNMaN!
Though Joefish has a point. The SNES play area was never full screen height, so the Speccy version need not be either.
Inspired by your graphics, I started making one of the music tracks, to prove I can do it!…
https://soundcloud.com/user-211102493/s ... ircuit-wip
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I'll have to revisit the screen, the snes screen obviously a different resolution so I'm trying to remember why I came up with this example. The obvious choice in the design was keeping the icons out of the playing area to avoid the need to mask.