Using A.I to recreate ZX Spectrum loading screens.

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Bill Gates wrote the 6502 basic used in the C64 - he's also trying to inject microchips into everyone (probs 6502s, as used by the terminator? Although maybe it was a 6809 as used in Robotron).

It all makes sense now
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Lee Bee wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 11:46 am Also, how come they're all square instead of 4:3?
I run Stable Diffusion on the PC and pretty much any resolution can be defined but the AI is trained on square images (512x512 on SD, 1024x1024 for SDXL) so most of the online stuff sticks to what it's trained on.
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a young wizard in a blue cloak and yellow floppy hat, stood in a field at night. small yellow mushrooms are on the ground. a tree, with a scary face reaches out ominously. drawn in a cartoon style
This is weirdly addictive. :lol:
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That screen looks a bit magic ;)
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R-Tape wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 10:46 pm That screen looks a bit magic ;)
Only slightly, though.
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He has the look of a chap who's just cleaned his mansion.
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Nitrowing wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2023 7:32 pm I run Stable Diffusion on the PC and pretty much any resolution can be defined but the AI is trained on square images (512x512 on SD, 1024x1024 for SDXL) so most of the online stuff sticks to what it's trained on.
Ah, another Stable Diffusion user. And beat me to the post. I think there was also a 720x720 training set, but it was deeply unpopular (Because they reduced the amount of porn that they trained it on!).

As was basically said: AI was trained on square images of a specific resolution, so the further you get from that, the worse the results. It is better to crop or use effects afterwards.


I am suprised that nobody has mentioned the sets on Civitai. There has been a model on there, trained on zx spectrum screenshots, for quite a while. If you plug the model into a compatible AI program (running on your own graphics card) it will try and make images trained on the speccys graphics limitations, and our artists sensibilities. I did not make this model.

https://civitai.com/models/93375/zx-spe ... style-beta

It is, urm, not very good. There are examples of results to see at that link. (There are only two, and they are bad. It does a little better in practice, but not much).

( In general, Civitai is not work safe. Without a free account, Civitai aims to hide all rude images, but it sometimes fails).

I notice a second spectrum model has appeared on Civitai recently.
https://civitai.com/models/105561/zx-spectrum
I have not tried it yet, but it also looks quite bad. (It looks like you need to enter "<lora:zxs:1>" for it to be strict on the speccy limitations, otherwise it will not look very spectrum at all.)

I have been meaning to have a go at making a better model for speccy screenshots and in-game images, but not actually got around to it. Plus I don't need the electricity bill that training generates.
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Uh, it appears that Bing's new AI image prompt (that started this thread) only works on M$ Edge.

I don't have the Edge. Ho Humm. I guess I will stick with Stable Diffusion 1111. It's a shame. From the images here, Bing does a lot better on rendering text than I have seen elsewhere. I loved the first few Ultimate images too.
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The sequel. (and low-hanging fruit)
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Is that Pam Ferris's Ferrous Ferries by any chance?
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ParadigmShifter wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:52 am Is that Pam Ferris's Ferrous Ferries by any chance?
Why yes, yes it it.
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ZX_Steve wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:17 am Uh, it appears that Bing's new AI image prompt (that started this thread) only works on M$ Edge.
Worked fine for me, and I wasn't using Edge. Either Chrome or Opera.
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stupidget wrote: Wed Oct 04, 2023 2:34 pm LOTR:

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This is what I used to create the image:

face on a faceless hooded figure in black rides a horse holding a sword aloft , it's cape billowing in the wind in the background there are rolling green hills and fields

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OK. Thought I'd give this a go… Who can guess this one, then?

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Prompt used (in Craiyon AI generator):
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dramatic closeup of two men in suits pointing guns at camera, one cop is caucasian and has moustache, other cop is black, night scene with yellow and blue lighting and city in background
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That's some weird freaky stuff going on there especially with the arms/hands
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How about this one?

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Other images (first I tried Craiyon, but it's rubbish so switched to Adobe Firefly):

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mischievous grinning old female witch with long nose and long chin and green hair and magenta cloak using a stick to stir a cauldron containing red bubbling liquid at night in a dark place with a black background and spooky lighting
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No prizes for guessing what this is!

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red ferrarri car on road viewed from rear, camera in middle of road, road is surrounded by sand and palm trees and car is surrounded with crowd and film crew and fat man with a start flag and above the road is a starting banner that says "START"
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This made me laugh.

Prompt:
clive sinclair playing on a zx spectrum game in the 1980s

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Not a loading screen but some nice box art.

"Dozy looking red maggot emerges from a hole in the the ground facing right next to a cup of tea. A dozy looking bee flies from the the left above a pink and white spotted mushroom growing from the ground. Shrubbery can be seen behind the maggot."


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I particularly liked the combination mushroom and tea cup in the first one.
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C.Born wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 8:38 pm Image
That pixel image looks great. Would be possible to create an .scr version?
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Lee Bee wrote: Fri Oct 06, 2023 11:36 pm OK. Thought I'd give this a go… Who can guess this one, then?

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Prompt used (in Craiyon AI generator):
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dramatic closeup of two men in suits pointing guns at camera, one cop is caucasian and has moustache, other cop is black, night scene with yellow and blue lighting and city in background
Probably the same as this one?

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a white detective with a bushy mustache, stood next to a black detective, both looking very 1970s, both are brandishing pistols. in the background is a city skyline. the words "Chase H. Q." is across the top in bold with a gradient fading from blue to red to yellow.
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AndyC wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 10:45 am Image
That is sublime. Which generator did you use?
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Lee Bee wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:28 am That is sublime. Which generator did you use?
The Bing one mentioned in the OP.

Here's another, quite good although the text is a little off


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a spooky looking house at night. a single window is illuminated with a bright light. a sign on the open gates in front reads "Enter At Your Own Risk" seemingly written in blood
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