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The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
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Yes, it's the reader games on the three major Speccy magazine covertapes. One common type was the Boulderdash 'inspiration' (and frankly, Earth Shaker is a very strong contender for this poll's winner), going where no commercial software house dared to tread, lest First Star's lawyers step in with a threat. Interesting puzzle games, plus some bland vertical shmups are also here and unfortunately some downright dreadful Operation Wolf clones too. Plus there's Jonathan Cauldwell being the only reader to have games published on ALL THREE major Speccy magazines' covertapes.
A.T.A.C. by Gadtek Games
Ano Gaia by Simon Tillson/Andy Mills
Bite The Dust by John Armstrong
Block-Dizzy by Arno van der Hulst
Bomb Ed by Theo Develegas
Brain Sport by Arno van der Hulst
Captain Pytron by New Breed Developments
Ceasefire by Divide By Zero
Ceasefire 2: Night Run by Divide By Zero
Chiron by Lee Briggs
Church Of Death by Guy Palmer/Larry Horsfield
Confused by Simon Everest
Cosmic Chaos by Michael and Craig Holdstock
Countdown To The Death by Mario de Paula Leite Gouvea
Cricket Coach by Robert McSherry
Death Zone by Paul Breed/G Howard
Deja Vu by Andrew Daly/Huw Bucknell
Deja Vu: The Remix by Andew Mark Daly
Demon Slayer by Psychaedelic Hedgehog
Destrux by David Alderson
Doomskulle by Richard Hutchison
Earth Shaker by Michael Batty
Egghead by Grafix Wizards
Egghead To The Rescue by Jonathan Cauldwell
Ethnipod by Paul Angel
Exiled by Andrew Hall
Gunhed by Theo Develegas
Haunted House by Jonathan Cauldwell
Head The Ball by Cybadyne
Hexcellent by Nigel Grange
Hunter by Scope Design
International Kickboxing by Brian Cross
Liberator by Psychadelic Hedgehog
Logo: Part 1 by Rainbow Dreams
Lost City, The by Martin Page
Mango Jones by Psychadelic Hedgehog
Manic Mower by Brendan Alford
Master Blaster by Cybadyne
Master Brain by Eric Auterith
Megablast! by Jonathan Cauldwell
Mental Block by Mark Hutchings
Mission Fallout by Mark Thompson
Monster Munch by Psychadelic Hedgehog Software
Non Compos Mentis by Nigel Grange
Non Compos Mentis II: Pleasure Beyond Pain by Nigel Grange
Nous by Theo Develegas
Olympus (AKA Gods) by Simon and Julia Barnsley
Omega Zone, The by Peter G Curtis
Peking by Dave Sanders
Pieces Of Eight by Mike Westlake
Piggy Punks by Theo Develegas
Pipework by Jonathan Cauldwell
Pixy The Microdot 2 by David Box
Pizza Bar by Redwood Designs
Pop Stars by Hellenic Software
Portals of P'Thaal by Martin Page
Qarx by Greg Jackson
Rikosphere by Tim Blacklock
Riptoff by Rick O'Neill
Rockfall by Ian M Collier
Rockfall II by Ian Collier
S.A.S. Combat Assault by Mike Westlake
Seven Parchments of Kandos, The by Martin Page
Shuriken by Xplosive
Snare by Enigma Software Developments
Soccer Cup Quizmaster by The Shaw Brothers
Solaris by Theo Develegas
Space 7 by Graham D Shaw
Specimen by Andy Remic
Specimen II: The Apple Quest by Psychaedelic Hedgehog
Spirit Of Ninja, The by Mark Crumby
Star Trip by Thundersoft
Starburst by Jim Gardner
Stars & Stripes by Ceri Williams
Super Fruit Machine by Jonathan Cauldwell
Surface Tension by Paul and Damian Scattergood
Talisman by Terry Stygall
Talking Hedz by Theo Develegas
Termination by Psychaedelic Hedgehog
Tetroid by Paul Markham
SU Crew, The by Theo Develegas
Top Fruitmachine, The by Arno van der Hulst
Trailer 2 by IQ Software
Twinz! by Theo Develegas
Ultimate Warrior by Airline Software
Venturama by Graham Shaw
Whole New Ball Game, A by Pete Cooke
YS Capers by Damian Scattergood
Zanthrax by W.A.S.P.
A.T.A.C. by Gadtek Games
Ano Gaia by Simon Tillson/Andy Mills
Bite The Dust by John Armstrong
Block-Dizzy by Arno van der Hulst
Bomb Ed by Theo Develegas
Brain Sport by Arno van der Hulst
Captain Pytron by New Breed Developments
Ceasefire by Divide By Zero
Ceasefire 2: Night Run by Divide By Zero
Chiron by Lee Briggs
Church Of Death by Guy Palmer/Larry Horsfield
Confused by Simon Everest
Cosmic Chaos by Michael and Craig Holdstock
Countdown To The Death by Mario de Paula Leite Gouvea
Cricket Coach by Robert McSherry
Death Zone by Paul Breed/G Howard
Deja Vu by Andrew Daly/Huw Bucknell
Deja Vu: The Remix by Andew Mark Daly
Demon Slayer by Psychaedelic Hedgehog
Destrux by David Alderson
Doomskulle by Richard Hutchison
Earth Shaker by Michael Batty
Egghead by Grafix Wizards
Egghead To The Rescue by Jonathan Cauldwell
Ethnipod by Paul Angel
Exiled by Andrew Hall
Gunhed by Theo Develegas
Haunted House by Jonathan Cauldwell
Head The Ball by Cybadyne
Hexcellent by Nigel Grange
Hunter by Scope Design
International Kickboxing by Brian Cross
Liberator by Psychadelic Hedgehog
Logo: Part 1 by Rainbow Dreams
Lost City, The by Martin Page
Mango Jones by Psychadelic Hedgehog
Manic Mower by Brendan Alford
Master Blaster by Cybadyne
Master Brain by Eric Auterith
Megablast! by Jonathan Cauldwell
Mental Block by Mark Hutchings
Mission Fallout by Mark Thompson
Monster Munch by Psychadelic Hedgehog Software
Non Compos Mentis by Nigel Grange
Non Compos Mentis II: Pleasure Beyond Pain by Nigel Grange
Nous by Theo Develegas
Olympus (AKA Gods) by Simon and Julia Barnsley
Omega Zone, The by Peter G Curtis
Peking by Dave Sanders
Pieces Of Eight by Mike Westlake
Piggy Punks by Theo Develegas
Pipework by Jonathan Cauldwell
Pixy The Microdot 2 by David Box
Pizza Bar by Redwood Designs
Pop Stars by Hellenic Software
Portals of P'Thaal by Martin Page
Qarx by Greg Jackson
Rikosphere by Tim Blacklock
Riptoff by Rick O'Neill
Rockfall by Ian M Collier
Rockfall II by Ian Collier
S.A.S. Combat Assault by Mike Westlake
Seven Parchments of Kandos, The by Martin Page
Shuriken by Xplosive
Snare by Enigma Software Developments
Soccer Cup Quizmaster by The Shaw Brothers
Solaris by Theo Develegas
Space 7 by Graham D Shaw
Specimen by Andy Remic
Specimen II: The Apple Quest by Psychaedelic Hedgehog
Spirit Of Ninja, The by Mark Crumby
Star Trip by Thundersoft
Starburst by Jim Gardner
Stars & Stripes by Ceri Williams
Super Fruit Machine by Jonathan Cauldwell
Surface Tension by Paul and Damian Scattergood
Talisman by Terry Stygall
Talking Hedz by Theo Develegas
Termination by Psychaedelic Hedgehog
Tetroid by Paul Markham
SU Crew, The by Theo Develegas
Top Fruitmachine, The by Arno van der Hulst
Trailer 2 by IQ Software
Twinz! by Theo Develegas
Ultimate Warrior by Airline Software
Venturama by Graham Shaw
Whole New Ball Game, A by Pete Cooke
YS Capers by Damian Scattergood
Zanthrax by W.A.S.P.
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1) Earth Shaker. Oh, it's Boulderdash but oh-so good looking! Visually delicious.
2) Brain Sport. I didn't know what Sokoban was, but this was a great way to find out, it's genius.
3) Egg Head. Yeah, it's Manic Miner but so much smoother.
Bubbling under: The Rex-like Ethnipod! A Whole New Ball Game being very clever. Peking being my first introduction to Mahjong! Riptoff being another good Boulderdash clone on a covertape, Bite The Dust having a brilliant editor and I guess Rockfall 1 and 2 weren't too bad. The genis that is Snare! Soccer Cup Quizmaster being a genuinely refreshing idea. Tetroid pretty much being so close to the real thing!
2) Brain Sport. I didn't know what Sokoban was, but this was a great way to find out, it's genius.
3) Egg Head. Yeah, it's Manic Miner but so much smoother.
Bubbling under: The Rex-like Ethnipod! A Whole New Ball Game being very clever. Peking being my first introduction to Mahjong! Riptoff being another good Boulderdash clone on a covertape, Bite The Dust having a brilliant editor and I guess Rockfall 1 and 2 weren't too bad. The genis that is Snare! Soccer Cup Quizmaster being a genuinely refreshing idea. Tetroid pretty much being so close to the real thing!
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Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
You didn't know what Sokoban was??? There's been about a bazillion versions on many platforms.
And that also means you've probably never played NetHack either!!! That has a few Sokoban levels in it (which are pretty hard IIRC) along one of the branching level paths. Nethack is another contender for best game ever
https://www.nethack.org/
And that also means you've probably never played NetHack either!!! That has a few Sokoban levels in it (which are pretty hard IIRC) along one of the branching level paths. Nethack is another contender for best game ever
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Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
1. Earth shaker - easily the most polished Boulderdash game on the Speccy.
2. Ethnipod - brilliant game, very Rex like, another one that could have easily been a commercial game
3. Gods - An enormously complex strategy game, which normally would've put me off, but somehow they got it just right and I lost hours to playing it over and over.
So many other great titles in there though, Ceasefire and Night run, Venturama, Brain Sport... honestly I could probably pick a top ten and still have some honourable mentions left over
2. Ethnipod - brilliant game, very Rex like, another one that could have easily been a commercial game
3. Gods - An enormously complex strategy game, which normally would've put me off, but somehow they got it just right and I lost hours to playing it over and over.
So many other great titles in there though, Ceasefire and Night run, Venturama, Brain Sport... honestly I could probably pick a top ten and still have some honourable mentions left over
Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
1. Venturama
2. Gods
3. Rockfall
2. Gods
3. Rockfall
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Too many great games to choose, so here's just a random top 3.
1. Riptoff. This is just such a brilliant game. Go play it if you've never played it before, now.
2. Peking. This is a simple puzzle game but I still played it lots. Great presentation, somehow. It's really hard to do a good game using a mouse pointer on the Speccy, but this one did really well.
3. Brain Sport. It was my first Sokoban and while it was very slow, I must have finished it, probably. But it might have been later when I had access to fast reloading of save states. And also because it was by a fellow Dutch person.
Too many other great games that I could highlight, but these 3 felt probably be more obsucre ones.
Venturama would probably also be on this Top 3 if it wasn't unavailable for download for years, for example.
Ethnipod is also great but I have recommended too many Cybernoid clones lately.
Portals of P'Thaal is also great, and he made a new sequel too that we discussed earlier. I forgot the link. Go play that too!
Jonathan's games are of course great too.
And last but not least, Gods, I've played that one a lot too back in the day.
1. Riptoff. This is just such a brilliant game. Go play it if you've never played it before, now.
2. Peking. This is a simple puzzle game but I still played it lots. Great presentation, somehow. It's really hard to do a good game using a mouse pointer on the Speccy, but this one did really well.
3. Brain Sport. It was my first Sokoban and while it was very slow, I must have finished it, probably. But it might have been later when I had access to fast reloading of save states. And also because it was by a fellow Dutch person.
Too many other great games that I could highlight, but these 3 felt probably be more obsucre ones.
Venturama would probably also be on this Top 3 if it wasn't unavailable for download for years, for example.
Ethnipod is also great but I have recommended too many Cybernoid clones lately.
Portals of P'Thaal is also great, and he made a new sequel too that we discussed earlier. I forgot the link. Go play that too!
Jonathan's games are of course great too.
And last but not least, Gods, I've played that one a lot too back in the day.
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Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
We have four 'top three' comments, yet only three votes in the phpBB poll (at time of writing), that's strange!
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Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
1. Earthshaker
2. Zanthrax
3. Egghead
2. Zanthrax
3. Egghead
Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
Just a note to say that Spot/Spex are talking nonsense; Church of Death should not have any credits for Larry Horsfield!
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Oops! Well, I wouldn't have known about these things, but hey, a minor error that doesn't derail the poll. Thanks for the correction.8BitAG wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:38 pm Just a note to say that Spot/Spex are talking nonsense; Church of Death should not have any credits for Larry Horsfield!
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Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
Would The Bobby Yazz Show not be included in this list along with the other Cubadyne games? It was supposed to be originally published by Destiny, but they went bust so it ended up on a Crash cover tape after being submitted by Cybadyne. Likewise, Head the Ball was originally to be published by Hewson on the 4th dimension compilation but wasn’t (replaced with Rollaround) and it ended up being on a Crash cover tape - although that is included in this list.
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I feel that the game is one of those that had commercial backing (albeit, having not gone through the full journey of course), so it has a (small) professional advantage over what could be termed as a reader game.
Gah! I did not know this.
Again, if people don't pick this up on the dedicated discussion thread then it leads to these situations where polls go live with mistakes in them.
I'm gonna have to declare any vote for Head The Ball null and void and wonder about rerunning the exclusive game poll... or not.
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Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
1 Earthshaker
2 Ethnipod
3 Logo
Bubbling under Non Compos Mentis, Rockfall and Whole New Ball Game.
2 Ethnipod
3 Logo
Bubbling under Non Compos Mentis, Rockfall and Whole New Ball Game.
Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
Well, we've had similar discussions before. The main problem here is that we're not able to pick up your specific choices if you don't disclose them to us.PeteProdge wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 6:07 pm Again, if people don't pick this up on the dedicated discussion thread then it leads to these situations where polls go live with mistakes in them.
I'm gonna have to declare any vote for Head The Ball null and void and wonder about rerunning the exclusive game poll... or not.
In the end you know about some of the games, and most of the times we cannot discern if you made a conscious choice or not, or that you had all the information. And if I had to supply every information for every game it would take us months, if not years (instead of you just making new voting choices every other week). There are like 100+ entries there in the covertapes.
And half the times we can only guess which cover game falls into your specific category after the previous poll is already underway. No point to redo older polls now.
So the conclusion is that because we never were able to found out _how_ you were placing games into categories, we are always guessing. And people don't like guessing for over 100 entries.
As for Head the Ball, it might have its own category, but in the end it's a very poorly made game that doesn't even have one finished level. It would not score in any sensible way in any of the categories.
Which is sad, because it is also one of the few technical demos that had a very good full colour horizontal scrolling.
Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
Almost all of these were after my Speccy-owning years, so I've probably not given them enough play and concentrated on the ones that held my interest for more than five minutes.
1. Block-Dizzy. The sort of puzzle game I could play for hours.
2. A Whole New Ball Game. Ditto.
3. Pixy the Microdot 2. Enjoyed this one, nice little wander-around-em-up I'll be giving more time to.
Honourable mentions:
Earth Shaker was the best of the Boulder Dash clones, but I liked Riptoff too. All of them were decent.
Brain Sport is a nice version of Sobokan/BoxWorld.
Tetroid is Tetris, no bells or whistles but if you like Tetris (I do) you'll like it.
Starburst would've been a decent shooter for 1985, I wondered if there was something wrong with the game as it seemed very difficult to die!
In contrast, I couldn't get on with the Egghead games at all, not quite Dinamic levels of difficulty but quite frustrating.
A lot of the other games were too derivative of better games, or just seemed like demos, or flashy adverts for the programmer's own skills (most of Theo Develgas/Hellenic Software's games fall into this category, although at least they weren't boring - I quite liked Twinz and whichever of the other ones samples Tone-Loc's Wild Thing)
1. Block-Dizzy. The sort of puzzle game I could play for hours.
2. A Whole New Ball Game. Ditto.
3. Pixy the Microdot 2. Enjoyed this one, nice little wander-around-em-up I'll be giving more time to.
Honourable mentions:
Earth Shaker was the best of the Boulder Dash clones, but I liked Riptoff too. All of them were decent.
Brain Sport is a nice version of Sobokan/BoxWorld.
Tetroid is Tetris, no bells or whistles but if you like Tetris (I do) you'll like it.
Starburst would've been a decent shooter for 1985, I wondered if there was something wrong with the game as it seemed very difficult to die!
In contrast, I couldn't get on with the Egghead games at all, not quite Dinamic levels of difficulty but quite frustrating.
A lot of the other games were too derivative of better games, or just seemed like demos, or flashy adverts for the programmer's own skills (most of Theo Develgas/Hellenic Software's games fall into this category, although at least they weren't boring - I quite liked Twinz and whichever of the other ones samples Tone-Loc's Wild Thing)
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Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
It's always disclosed a week before every poll. I try to sum up the category as much as possible in the title.
Well, this is the longest list in this poll series (so far) and it's hit 89 entries - exactly the same ones cited a week earlier.
Yes, the inclusion of loading screens and screenshots does make it more palatable for people to identify the games from the previous week's text-only list, but coding all that takes considerable time, especially with this long poll.
Yeah, that is my feeling on the game too. I never found it remotely entertaining and I've felt like not re-running that poll because I reckon others feel the same way, it's not going to make a dent if it's included.
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Earth Shaker for me.
For those interested I interviewed the author Michael Batty for my fanzine back in 1999:
https://archive.org/details/desert-island-disks/DID4/
For those interested I interviewed the author Michael Batty for my fanzine back in 1999:
https://archive.org/details/desert-island-disks/DID4/
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Wow! Only £100 payment and he had to haggle for that!? Gah!Frankie wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 11:47 am Earth Shaker for me.
For those interested I interviewed the author Michael Batty for my fanzine back in 1999:
https://archive.org/details/desert-island-disks/DID4/
Plus, its debut appearance as part of Crap Game Corner, it sits alongside another future covertape inclusion, Brain Sport, which is also superb.
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Yeah, and he went on to create two great games to be officially released, especially Tai Chi TortoisePeteProdge wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 12:43 pm Wow! Only £100 payment and he had to haggle for that!? Gah!
Plus, its debut appearance as part of Crap Game Corner, it sits alongside another future covertape inclusion, Brain Sport, which is also superb.
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Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
1 Earth Shaker
2 Brain Sport
3 Non Compos Mentis
2 Brain Sport
3 Non Compos Mentis
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1. Peking
2. Earth Shaker
3. Haunted House
It was very close between the top two, but I do play Peking more than Earth Shaker.
2. Earth Shaker
3. Haunted House
It was very close between the top two, but I do play Peking more than Earth Shaker.
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Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
1. Peking
2. Gods
3. Earth Shaker
2. Gods
3. Earth Shaker
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Re: The best reader-submitted game on a YS/Crash/SU covertape: vote
Did the earth move for you? Why, of course, it's Earth Shaker winning this poll (deservedly so) as I predicted. Ten votes!
Three votes went to Peking, placing that second.
A Whole New Ball Game ends up third, with two votes.
And a few single votes go to: Block-Dizzy; Master Blaster; Portals of P'Thaal; Riptoff and Venturama.
Over to the proportional results:
Earth Shaker by Michael Batty 18
Peking by Dave Sanders 8
Brain Sport by Arno van der Hulst 5
Olympus (AKA Gods) by Simon and Julia Barnsley 5
Ethnipod by Paul Angel 4
Block-Dizzy by Arno van der Hulst 3
Riptoff by Rick O'Neill 3
Venturama by Graham Shaw 3
Egghead by Grafix Wizards 2
Whole New Ball Game, A by Pete Cooke 2
Zanthrax by W.A.S.P. 2
Haunted House by Jonathan Cauldwell 1
Logo: Part 1 by Rainbow Dreams 1
Non Compos Mentis by Nigel Grange 1
Pixy The Microdot 2 by David Box 1
Rockfall by Ian M Collier 1
Three votes went to Peking, placing that second.
A Whole New Ball Game ends up third, with two votes.
And a few single votes go to: Block-Dizzy; Master Blaster; Portals of P'Thaal; Riptoff and Venturama.
Over to the proportional results:
Earth Shaker by Michael Batty 18
Peking by Dave Sanders 8
Brain Sport by Arno van der Hulst 5
Olympus (AKA Gods) by Simon and Julia Barnsley 5
Ethnipod by Paul Angel 4
Block-Dizzy by Arno van der Hulst 3
Riptoff by Rick O'Neill 3
Venturama by Graham Shaw 3
Egghead by Grafix Wizards 2
Whole New Ball Game, A by Pete Cooke 2
Zanthrax by W.A.S.P. 2
Haunted House by Jonathan Cauldwell 1
Logo: Part 1 by Rainbow Dreams 1
Non Compos Mentis by Nigel Grange 1
Pixy The Microdot 2 by David Box 1
Rockfall by Ian M Collier 1
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