Cant find the program with digitized music?

On the creation of AY or Beeper music, including the packages used to do so.
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Re: Cant find the program with digitized music?

Post by ZXDunny » Mon Nov 18, 2019 12:16 pm

Pegaz wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 11:40 am
Finally, after two months of searching I found it !!!
The file is called Normal Life, I don't know anything about it, but the music is absolutely beautiful.
Enjoy. :)

http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?fi ... 2652916518
Sounds like a .mod file using samples down-sampled from ST-01 :D
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Re: Cant find the program with digitized music?

Post by Pegaz » Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:35 pm

Is that good or bad? ;)
Either way, if there were more Spectrum tunes like this, I'd love to hear it.
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Re: Cant find the program with digitized music?

Post by ZXDunny » Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:17 pm

Pegaz wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 7:35 pm
Is that good or bad? ;)
Either way, if there were more Spectrum tunes like this, I'd love to hear it.
There aren't many. It's likely using sampled instruments in a soundtracker-like system from the sounds of it. Seems to be an original composition at least, there's no Amiga mods that sound quite like it.

I think the Bicie demo has one in a similar vein, but it's not Mike Oldfield :)
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Re: Cant find the program with digitized music?

Post by Ast A. Moore » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:18 pm

There’s Instrument, a sampler (in TR-DOS format) which has similar sounds. It comes with quite a few demo songs (and clunky navigation, which requires that you swap disks to load the necessary instruments for each song). I don’t think it’s been used extensively outside of demos, though. It’s neat, though. Check it out.
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Re: Cant find the program with digitized music?

Post by djnzx48 » Mon Nov 18, 2019 9:44 pm

It looks like Sample Tracker, or something using the same playback routine. This is one example of using different AY ports along with the out ($fd), a instruction, so that the BC register doesn't have to change between register selection and data writes.

There are a lot more tunes here, but not all are for the AY chip.

Before you found the program, I thought you were referring to music that had simply been digitised and not recreated using a tracker. MQM 6 includes a good example of digitised music.
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Re: Cant find the program with digitized music?

Post by druellan » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:24 am

After the Border Effects feature group, I was thinking that a "digital sound effects" feature group might also make sense, there are plenty of games and apps with 48k and 128k digital voices and sound effects.
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Re: Cant find the program with digitized music?

Post by Pegaz » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:48 pm

ZXDunny wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:17 pm
There aren't many. It's likely using sampled instruments in a soundtracker-like system from the sounds of it. Seems to be an original composition at least, there's no Amiga mods that sound quite like it.

I think the Bicie demo has one in a similar vein, but it's not Mike Oldfield :)
I tried that demo and I have to say that the Oldfield song is far better. :)
If we need to look for competition, we can find it easier in some of the great 1-bit beeper tunes, such as the last theme in MrBeep's great "1-bit attack" demo.
Btw, that "Bicie" demo has also one 1-bit beeper tune, but for some reason I can't get sound at all, just border effects.
I tried it on the latest SpecEmu in both 128/48k mode, so I have no doubt about the quality of the emulation.
Probably I overlooked something, does anyone know how to play this tune?
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Re: Cant find the program with digitized music?

Post by ZXDunny » Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:50 pm

Pegaz wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:48 pm
ZXDunny wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 8:17 pm
There aren't many. It's likely using sampled instruments in a soundtracker-like system from the sounds of it. Seems to be an original composition at least, there's no Amiga mods that sound quite like it.

I think the Bicie demo has one in a similar vein, but it's not Mike Oldfield :)
I tried that demo and I have to say that the Oldfield song is far better. :)
If we need to look for competition, we can find it easier in some of the great 1-bit beeper tunes, such as the last theme in MrBeep's great "1-bit attack" demo.
Btw, that "Bicie" demo has also one 1-bit beeper tune, but for some reason I can't get sound at all, just border effects.
I tried it on the latest SpecEmu in both 128/48k mode, so I have no doubt about the quality of the emulation.
Probably I overlooked something, does anyone know how to play this tune?
Last time I tried, it worked fine on my +2A from the covertape itself. No idea why it might fail under emulation.
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Re: Cant find the program with digitized music?

Post by Woodster » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:48 pm

ZXDunny wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:50 pm
Last time I tried, it worked fine on my +2A from the covertape itself. No idea why it might fail under emulation.
So the +2A (and presumably the 128K too then) produce audible MIC output through the TV speaker with the Beeper bit off? The reason for the silence in SpecEmu is that it's stated in the FAQ (or at least somewhere :p) that the MIC output alone can't drive the speaker but can be used for a slight increase in volume when used with the Beeper bit.
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Re: Cant find the program with digitized music?

Post by Woodster » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:49 pm

Pegaz wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:48 pm
I tried it on the latest SpecEmu in both 128/48k mode, so I have no doubt about the quality of the emulation.
Probably I overlooked something, does anyone know how to play this tune?
You could use the "Boost saving tone" option in the Tape options to boost the MIC output to an audible level. It might be a bit loud though!
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