Speccy mags having a pop at each other

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Speccy mags having a pop at each other

Post by PeteProdge » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:54 pm

Crash didn't like SU, as can be evidenced from the 'Unclear User' parody which has been very well covered.

Of course, there were other jibes. I've just picked up on this from Crash's December 1986 issue where they never name Sinclair User, although they print a photo of its editor and his name...

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Pretty ironic that Crash ended up in a merger with SU.

I've never read the main three Speccy mags in full, but I'm sure there are other examples of a magazine poking fun at their rivals.
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Post by MatGubbins » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:17 pm

Your Sinclair, October 1986, Great Escape cover, page 88, Fanzine of the Year.

http://live.worldofspectrum.org/infosee ... lair/10#90

Read the paragraph under the picture, then look at the picture.
Pure YS humor.
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Post by MatGubbins » Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:39 pm

Crash, Issue 40, May 1987, Enduro Racer
features a CVG helmeted rider crashing to the floor

Crash, Issue 32, August 1986, Hannah Smith
features Hannah Smith (girlie tipster) fighting ugly trolls - another dig at CVG and their girlie tipster Melissa Ravenflame

Crash, Issue 16, May 185, Robot football
features the tagline 'Sports Scene, last of a dying genre?' a dig at Your Spectrum publisher Sports Scene.
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Post by PeteProdge » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:17 pm

MatGubbins wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:17 pm
Your Sinclair, October 1986, Great Escape cover, page 88, Fanzine of the Year.

http://live.worldofspectrum.org/infosee ... lair/10#90

Read the paragraph under the picture, then look at the picture.
Pure YS humor.
That's brilliant, never seen that one before! I don't recall any Crash-bashing from YS.
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Post by PeteProdge » Fri Feb 02, 2018 2:51 pm

MatGubbins wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:39 pm
Crash, Issue 40, May 1987, Enduro Racer
features a CVG helmeted rider crashing to the floor
Well spotted!
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MatGubbins wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:39 pm
Crash, Issue 32, August 1986, Hannah Smith
features Hannah Smith (girlie tipster) fighting ugly trolls - another dig at CVG and their girlie tipster Melissa Ravenflame
Ah, it's actually issue 31. There's a bit of a background to the story on various websites...

Issue 30 has Hannah explaining it in her own words...

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Which culminates in...

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Now that's Hannah fighting some anonymous alien creature. It was meant to be CVG's cartoon character (and tipster) Melissa Ravenflame, being pinned in a mud-wrestling contest with the aforementioned Hannah. It had apparently began with the pseudonymous Melissa insulting Crash's tipster. I'm not entirely sure of the full details, but inside the magazine, Crash illustrated the story with a clearly set-up photoshoot about Hannah training and beating an actual wrestler at a Ludlow nightclub...

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And Hannah used her section to fire back at C&VG's 'Melissa Rookhead'...

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Incidentally, this is what Melissa Ravenflame looked like...

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MatGubbins wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:39 pm
Crash, Issue 16, May 185, Robot football
features the tagline 'Sports Scene, last of a dying genre?' a dig at Your Spectrum publisher Sports Scene.
Oh yes...

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Post by 5MinuteRetro » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:48 pm

MatGubbins wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:39 pm
features Hannah Smith (girlie tipster)
I have in the past, purely out of curiosity (ahem), tried to figure out if Hannah Smith was real or made up. I got conflicting answers on Twitter from Julian Rignall (he said she was a figment) and Roger Kean (he insisted she was real).

Still none the wiser. What you guys think/know?
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Post by 5MinuteRetro » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:53 pm

5MinuteRetro wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:48 pm
MatGubbins wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:39 pm
features Hannah Smith (girlie tipster)
I have in the past, purely out of curiosity (ahem), tried to figure out if Hannah Smith was real or made up. I got conflicting answers on Twitter from Julian Rignall (he said she was a figment) and Roger Kean (he insisted she was real).

Still none the wiser. What you guys think/know?
I mean, obviously... there're all the above photos. I'm aware of those and have seen them before. But photos captioned 'Hannah Smith' don't make Hannah Smith a real person. Those could be photos of anyone -- an office assistant, a writer's sister, a local schoolgirl, a hired model. Who knows? Certainly she seemed to disappear off the face off the earth (well, Google) post-Crash...
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Re: Speccy mags having a pop at each other

Post by PeteProdge » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:10 pm

5MinuteRetro wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:53 pm
5MinuteRetro wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:48 pm
MatGubbins wrote:
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:39 pm
features Hannah Smith (girlie tipster)
I have in the past, purely out of curiosity (ahem), tried to figure out if Hannah Smith was real or made up. I got conflicting answers on Twitter from Julian Rignall (he said she was a figment) and Roger Kean (he insisted she was real).

Still none the wiser. What you guys think/know?
I mean, obviously... there're all the above photos. I'm aware of those and have seen them before. But photos captioned 'Hannah Smith' don't make Hannah Smith a real person. Those could be photos of anyone -- an office assistant, a writer's sister, a local schoolgirl, a hired model. Who knows? Certainly she seemed to disappear off the face off the earth (well, Google) post-Crash...
Well, here's the kicker. She joined EMAP, it seems.

December 1991 (issue 118) Sinclair User...

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I'll take a look at later issues to see any more evidence. Unfortunately this means having to read late-era Sinclair User. My retinas will never forgive me.
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Post by PeteProdge » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:16 pm

Well, here we go with January 1992 (issue 119) of SU...

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Incidentally, going back a bit, issue 60 of C&VG seems to have their mention of the feud, on the letters page...

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History does not record who had to apologise to who when Hannah reached Farringdon Lane in 1992.
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Post by PeteProdge » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:21 pm

Of course, while researching, I've come across this eye-opening response from the SU editor in which he instils a sense of unity with Your Sinclair and educates the reader on ELSPA and magazine advertising economics...

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Wow!
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