Little bugs in the database 4

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Re: Little bugs in the database 4

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Hi,

I've noticed Sirwood lists an intro screenshot instead of its original loading screen.

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/4 ... um/Sirwood

This is the correct one: https://zxart.ee/release/id:297516/mode ... rintro.png
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+3code wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:58 am I think this
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2041
can be added to
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/6 ... d_of_Kings
It's tricky... because it isn't a re-release but it is authorised. It's a completely different reverse engineered version of the game running on a totally different engine using completely different code; created over thirty years later. The graphics and text might be similar but the code is completely unrelated. WOS did not have a consistent policy on this but I would argue it needs a linked, but separate entry.
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8BitAG wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:47 pm
+3code wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:58 am I think this
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2041
can be added to
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/6 ... d_of_Kings
It's tricky... because it isn't a re-release but it is authorised. It's a completely different reverse engineered version of the game running on a totally different engine using completely different code; created over thirty years later. The graphics and text might be similar but the code is completely unrelated. WOS did not have a consistent policy on this but I would argue it needs a linked, but separate entry.
I agree.
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From Paul Collins via email:

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/2 ... hine_Codes

Buttercraft's "ZX Big-Shot Typeface Machine Codes" is listed as having been created with the PAW (Professional Adventure Writer) -- that can't be right for a font utility, can it?
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PeterJ wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:47 pm From Paul Collins via email:

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/2 ... hine_Codes

Buttercraft's "ZX Big-Shot Typeface Machine Codes" is listed as having been created with the PAW (Professional Adventure Writer) -- that can't be right for a font utility, can it?
It seems very unlikely; unless, of course, they used the PAW's font editor to create the fonts.

Seems to be an add-on tape for https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/9 ... X_Big-Shot
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Rather OT, but It got a very poor review in Sinclair User :-)

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PeterJ wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:47 pm From Paul Collins via email:

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/2 ... hine_Codes

Buttercraft's "ZX Big-Shot Typeface Machine Codes" is listed as having been created with the PAW (Professional Adventure Writer) -- that can't be right for a font utility, can it?
From ZXDB incremental file "102_zxdb_UTF8.sql":

Code: Select all

-- [PeterJ] https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=16177#p16177
INSERT INTO relations (entry_id, original_id, relationtype_id) VALUES ('15730', '6825', 'a');
INSERT INTO relations (entry_id, original_id, relationtype_id) VALUES ('20894', '6825', 'a');
INSERT INTO relations (entry_id, original_id, relationtype_id) VALUES ('16890', '6825', 'a');
Instead of 20894 it should have been 20984. I'm fixing it now.

Luckily we maintain auditing logs for all ZXDB changes, thus any mistakes can be easily tracked and fixed :)
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Good stuff [mention]Einar Saukas[/mention],

I will send Paul a thank you for his good spot.
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Cassette Juegos is currently identified as compilation instead of covertape, as if this tape was sold independently by magazine "Tu Micro".

However most games included in this tape are marked as "originally published in a covertape", thus implying that Cassette Juegos is actually a covertape included in a magazine issue.

Does anyone know if this is a covertape or not? If so, then what's the magazine number that included this tape?
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Einar Saukas wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:17 pm Cassette Juegos is currently identified as compilation instead of covertape, as if this tape was sold independently by magazine "Tu Micro".

However most games included in this tape are marked as "originally published in a covertape", thus implying that Cassette Juegos is actually a covertape included in a magazine issue.

Does anyone know if this is a covertape or not? If so, then what's the magazine number that included this tape?
Reading about "Tu Micro" here

https://programbytes48k.wordpress.com/2 ... a-estudio/

and looking the tape and cassette inlay I think its'n a covertape, but a compilation sold independently by "Tu Micro".
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Thanks!

I also saw this text before, but I could not see any indication that Cassette Juegos was sold independently. Did you conclude this because there's no explicit reference to any specific magazine number?

Also the instructions transcription reference different magazine numbers for each program, and each one of these programs is currently marked as originally released "on magazine covertape" (except the last one). However the text about "Tu Micro" seem to indicate programs were published as type-ins, instead of covertapes. What's the correct information?

Finally does anyone know where to find magazine scans? Perhaps [mention]Neil Parsons[/mention]?
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Einar Saukas wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:17 pm Thanks!

I also saw this text before, but I could not see any indication that Cassette Juegos was sold independently. Did you conclude this because there's no explicit reference to any specific magazine number?

Also the instructions transcription reference different magazine numbers for each program, and each one of these programs is currently marked as originally released "on magazine covertape" (except the last one). However the text about "Tu Micro" seem to indicate programs were published as type-ins, instead of covertapes. What's the correct information?
Well, I think it can be only a compilation, the instructions show the magazine numbers for each program and really all in this tape looks so.
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Einar Saukas wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:17 pm Finally does anyone know where to find magazine scans? Perhaps @Neil Parsons?
The magazine no, but the type-ins are preserved here:
https://proyectobasiczx.wordpress.com/r ... /tu-micro/
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+3code wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:49 pm
Einar Saukas wrote: Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:17 pm Finally does anyone know where to find magazine scans? Perhaps @Neil Parsons?
The magazine no, but the type-ins are preserved here:
https://proyectobasiczx.wordpress.com/r ... /tu-micro/
This link confirms that these programs were originally released as type-ins.

Thanks!!!
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Why does the 16/48 Machine Code Tutor have 'Missing in Action' recorded against it?


https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... Code_Tutor
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The Theatre of Death says it was originally published in compilation 10 Adventure Game Pack Volume 2 by "Central Solutions". If this information is correct, then original publisher of The Theatre of Death should be "Central Solutions" instead of "Dave Watson".

The same logic applies to Goldseeker.
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Soft Spectrum covertapes were published by Editorial Grupo Veintiuno according to this, this, and this. However almost every game originally published in these tapes say they were originally published by Grupo de Trabajo Software S.A.

Which one is correct?
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There's a comment in Signal Part 1 that says "Your Sinclair cover demo". This comment was imported from Martijn's WoS.

However I cannot find any Your Sinclair covertape that includes this program. Is this comment wrong?

Perhaps it's incorrectly referring to Signal Part 3 from YS #81.
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Soundtracker was included in YS #83 covertape.

Soundtracker Song Compiler was included in YS #84 covertape.

According to ZXSR, both covertapes also contained Soundtracker Music Demo. Could anyone please check if this information is correct?
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Another grand spot from Paul Collins

The apostrophe is misplaced here: the game itself gives the title as "The Eunuchs' Ball"

The listing currently has the apostrophe before the 's'.

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... nuchs_Ball
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PeterJ wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:51 am Another grand spot from Paul Collins

The apostrophe is misplaced here: the game itself gives the title as "The Eunuchs' Ball"

The listing currently has the apostrophe before the 's'.

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... nuchs_Ball
We have it listed as Eunuchs' on CASA but to be fair, it is AKA The Eunuch's Ball as that's the way the Spectrum and Amstrad version were sometimes advertised, in their Adventure Workshop versions....

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I've seen Phillip himself refer to it as "The Eunuchs' Ball" so that is probably the correct, intended title.

Edit: Given the inlay for the Spectrum version (or at least one of the inlays... they had to be redone when Philip Reynolds had his computers stolen) lists the title as The Eunuch's Ball, you could easily argue it's The Eunuch's Ball aka The Eunuchs' Ball on the Spectrum...
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You could have similar conversations about the Assassins' Guild...
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... sins_Guild

which definitely should be Assassins' not Assassin's.

The Assassins' Guild 2, (aka The Assassins' Guild Two) by the same publisher and author, also appears to be missing from the database. (It was also a Spectrum 128K game)
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8BitAG wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:26 am We have it listed as Eunuchs' on CASA but to be fair, it is AKA The Eunuch's Ball as that's the way the Spectrum and Amstrad version were sometimes advertised, in their Adventure Workshop versions....

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I've seen Phillip himself refer to it as "The Eunuchs' Ball" so that is probably the correct, intended title.
Thank you. I wonder how we should approach this as the screenshot for the game definitely show the apostrophe at the end of the word, but the documentation you provided shows differently. I'm inclined to match the screenshots and CASA, but no strong feelings either way.
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PeterJ wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:04 am Thank you. I wonder how we should approach this as the screenshot for the game definitely show the apostrophe at the end of the word, but the documentation you provided shows differently. I'm inclined to match the screenshots and CASA, but no strong feelings either way.
See my last minute edit to the post, which shows the cassette tape.

It either needs to be listed as The Eunuch's Ball aka The Eunuchs' Ball

or

The Eunuchs' Ball aka The Eunuch's Ball

Doesn't really matter either way. Depends if you want to list based on advertising/inlay or name displayed in the program itself (which is the author's personal preference).

But both need to be listed, especially if they would result in a false search.
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