HTTPS

PeterJ · Post by **PeterJ** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:32 pm

Hi all,

Can I ask that you use https for posting images and other files where ever possible. There are many image hosting sites like ImgBB which offer free hosting. You can share other files via Dropbox, Google Drive and many others.
Most modern browsers by default block unsecure content on secure sites like ours. It just makes it easier for the majority of users.

If you have issues or need help please PM me. Thanks.

Alone Coder · Post by **Alone Coder** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:12 pm

I think, Spectrum community is big enough to lobby the keeping of HTTP at least in one mainstream web browser. Keeping HTTP alive is vital for us, because Spectrum can't handle HTTPS.

PeterJ · Post by **PeterJ** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:23 pm

I have no idea how it's done [mention]Alone Coder[/mention], but the Interface1Bis allows you to download content from us, archive.org and WoS. All of which use HTTPS.

My request is purely when posting images or links on this site. Please use https. Thanks

NEO SPECTRUMAN · Post by **NEO SPECTRUMAN** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:57 pm

PeterJ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:23 pm My request is purely when posting images or links on this site. Please use https. Thanks

NOPE!
You contribute to killing legacy browsers, legacy OS, legacy computers
This way you support M$, ZOG, megacorporations which promotes consumer society
they recently killed ftp, flash (blahblahblah security issues blahblahblah)
now on the line http
yeah viewing unsecure content on m$ spyware 11 in latest spywarechrome is so unsecure

you betray retro computing

Also
to get to the spectrumcomputing you must go through the Cloudflare
which will block legacy browsers in the near future (sometimes it does it already)
some **capchas do the same right now

PeterJ · Post by **PeterJ** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:07 pm

[mention]NEO SPECTRUMAN[/mention],

If I was betraying retro computing I wouldn't be running a retro computing site.

Regardless of if we like it or not, the majority of web users use Chrome which by default blocks none https content. This causes images hosted with http not to be displayed which is not good for users. I'm just trying to make the site accessible for the majority of users.

There is no secret agenda here (my main OS is Ubuntu Linux and the site is not built with Microsoft technologies. The server is running Ubuntu too), but if you want to post images or links on this site please use HTTPS. None HTTPS links may be deleted.

Cloudflare was introduced after we were attacked multiple times.

Thanks

PS
Chrome usage is at 64%. https://gs.statcounter.com/

NEO SPECTRUMAN · Post by **NEO SPECTRUMAN** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:16 pm

PeterJ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:07 pm There is no secret agenda here (my main OS is Ubuntu Linux and the site is not built with Microsoft technologies. The server is running Ubuntu too), but if you want to post images or links on this site please use HTTPS. None HTTPS links may be deleted.

great
lets delete all .scr like g00gle
because they unsecure

NEO SPECTRUMAN · Post by **NEO SPECTRUMAN** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:18 pm

PeterJ wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:07 pm Chrome usage is at 64%. https://gs.statcounter.com/

i'm also often use chrome user agent
because many sites blocking legacy browsers...

PeterJ · Post by **PeterJ** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:21 pm

.scr files are converted to graphic files on the fly when displayed on the site. .scr files were Windows screensaver files which were used to spread viruses. That's why many browsers block them by default.
In the end, you decide if you want to post on a website. No-one is forcing you to use SC. It's choice. There are other sites available.

Thanks

1024MAK · Post by **1024MAK** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:12 pm

So are links like this one unacceptable? Yes, I know this particular site also has an HTTPS address.

There are many, many sites that are still only HTTP and not HTTPS. As far as I can see HTTPS is only needed if personal private information (including passwords) are being transferred, or where PC executable code is being transferred.

Unfortunately certain OS and certain browsers were designed to be a bit too flexible and hence left wide open doors that some people took full advantage of.

Now that a large amount of internet use is commercial, the large players are forcing the use of HTTPS to try and deal with these issues.

Oh, I first encountered a virus on a Atari ST floppy disk years before I got an internet connection. Since then I have discovered that the Acorn Archimedes range also had at least one virus.

Mark

PeterJ · Post by **PeterJ** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:23 pm

Hi [mention]1024MAK[/mention],

The main concern is images (because they don't display in Chrome by default). if you have an image on an HTTP site just upload it to one of the many image sharing websites. Links to sites where there is no alternative is fine.

Just use HTTPS wherever possible, but obviously it's not always possible.

My first virus was on the Amiga.

AndyC · Post by **AndyC** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:19 pm

The problem is that if you embed non-secured elements in a secure page, it provides a gateway for bypassing the protection that HTTPS is trying to provide in the first place. So displaying a HTTP image on a HTTPS Spectrum Computing page could, potentially, allow your SC credentials to be compromised.

It's why browsers have moved from allowing it, to removing the padlock icon when a page does it and to finally just flat out blocking it entirely. There's no sinister agenda here, no secret attempt to trick you. The internet is just a scary place full of rather unsavoury characters and so there is a constant fight to outdo the bad guys and that sometimes means that old tech needs to be taken out and kept in a nice safe place instead.

PeterJ · Post by **PeterJ** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:37 pm

Thank you [mention]AndyC[/mention].

NEO SPECTRUMAN · Post by **NEO SPECTRUMAN** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:45 pm

AndyC wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:19 pm The internet is just a scary place full of rather unsavoury

so lets turn off cpu cache in next "security" updates on you win15
because it has security issues and can be used to steal personal information

PeterJ · Post by **PeterJ** » Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:10 pm

[mention]NEO SPECTRUMAN[/mention],

I notice you are using ProtonMail - Secure and encrypted email. That's just like modern sites using HTTPS. You can't have it both ways.

I'm closing this thread now.

Edit: [mention]NEO SPECTRUMAN[/mention] tells me he uses this because it works on Firefox 52 and doesn't need a phone number to register.

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