Devfinitive Edition (Matthew Smith): vote

PeteProdge · Post by **PeteProdge** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:36 pm

More like Andre's Week Off, am I right guys!?

Ahem.

Well, here begins the two-horse race.

Andre's Night Off by C&VG (type-in listing)

Jet Set Willy by Software Projects

Manic Miner by Bug-Byte Software

Styx by Bug-Byte Software

PeteProdge · Post by **PeteProdge** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 5:37 pm

1) Manic Miner. I know JSW does more and breaks you out of the linear gameplay of MM, but the OG has more exciting game play and interesting screen design.
2) Jet Set Willy.
3) Styx.

Mpk · Post by **Mpk** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 6:20 pm

1. Manic Miner
2. Jet Set Willy
3. Andre's Night Off. ( This is a sympathy vote )

Hank Scorpio · Post by **Hank Scorpio** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 7:09 pm

1 JSW
2 Manic Miner
3 Styx

R-Tape · Post by **R-Tape** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:01 pm

1 - Manic Miner
2 - Jet Set Willy
3 - Styx
(50 - Andre's Night Off)

It pains me to say that MM comes top of the tree more for practical reasons than personality: MM is completable by anyone that applies themselves; JSW needs a fix for the attic bug, and even then is too big and difficult for most. So if JSW didn't fail on those, its edgier feel would just have nudged it to the top. Of course having said that, much of the JSW humour stands on MM's shoulders.

It's also a reminder for me to play Styx again. I don't think I'll revisit Andre's Night Off though... perhaps now is the time for a reboot?

hitm4n · Post by **hitm4n** » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:25 pm

Same for me...

Manic Miner
Jet Set Willy
Styx

Matt_B · Post by **Matt_B** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:06 am

1. Manic Miner
2. Jet Set Willy
3. Styx

Suffice it to say that there's a very big gap between 2 and 3. One's a game you can spend many hours with, looking for its hidden secrets, while the other is more like thirty seconds and you're done.

Juan F. Ramirez · Post by **Juan F. Ramirez** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:35 am

1. Jet Set Willy
2. Manic Miner
3. Styx

Vampyre · Post by **Vampyre** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:28 am

1. Manic Miner
2. Jet Set Willy
3. Styx

clebin · Post by **clebin** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:35 am

1. Jet Set Willy
2. Manic Miner
3. Styx

MarkRJones1970 · Post by **MarkRJones1970** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 3:49 pm

Did Mathew Smith actually write Andre’s Night Off? Or was it made out he did to improve magazine sales? It’s extremely poor, even for a basic game and wouldn’t have thought submitting this to a magazine would have been a wise move considering the quality of his other titles.

RWAC · Post by **RWAC** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:42 pm

1. Jet Set Willy
2. Styx
3. Manic Miner

I never "got" Manic Miner, I always found it a bit boring. I know, blasphemy right? I much prefered exploring the mansion in JSW than trying to collect all the objects on each screen. I know you were supposed to collect things in JSW, but I never bothered.

R-Tape · Post by **R-Tape** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:08 pm

RWAC wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:42 pm I never "got" Manic Miner, I always found it a bit boring.

Is this allowed?

Tan Coul · Post by **Tan Coul** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:28 pm

1 Manic Miner
2 Styx
3 Andre's Night Off (not in support of that, but as an earnest protest against JSW)

jetsetdanny · Post by **jetsetdanny** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:52 pm

Why is everyone giving a reply with three out of the four games listed in the order of preference? The original questionnaire says that "You may select 1 option".

If it's just one option, my vote is "Jet Set Willy".

If it's about indicating the order of preference among these four games (without necessarily mentioning them all), my vote is:

1. "Jet Set Willy"

2. "Manic Miner"

I don't care about the other two games; the fact that Matthew Smith wrote them makes them a historical curiosity and nothing more.

PeteProdge · Post by **PeteProdge** » Mon Dec 04, 2023 11:15 pm

jetsetdanny wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2023 10:52 pm Why is everyone giving a reply with three out of the four games listed in the order of preference? The original questionnaire says that "You may select 1 option".

You must be new to these polls.

Yes, you can vote for just one option in the forum-driven poll, that's the main poll.

But, we also have a 'top three' poll running in the comments whenever there are three or more options. Taking part in it is not compulsory and indeed, not every forum voter takes part.

Three points will be awarded to your first choice.
Two points to your second choice.
One point to your first choice.

If the forum poll results in a tie, then we defer to this 'proportional' poll. It's not a perfect way of doing things, but it just about works for us.

jetsetdanny · Post by **jetsetdanny** » Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:02 pm

Thank you so much for this clear explanation!

In view of it, I have just voted "properly" in the main poll (and was a little surprised to see the results so far...

).

blucey · Post by **blucey** » Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:56 am

I think I prefer JSW over MM. I never got anywhere near beating it but when I played it, I'd just go off in one direction and just explore. It felt like such a massive game at the time. The good thing though is that even if certain rooms were impossible for you, you could just leave or avoid them. If you get stuck on MM, that's you done.

Morkin · Post by **Morkin** » Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:59 am

1. Manic Miner
2. JSW
3. Styx

z80 coder · Post by **z80 coder** » Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:00 am

Ex Software Projects employee

1) Manic Miner - gives a linear learning curve to play
2) Jet Set Willy - greater playering area - but bugged

MtM · Post by **MtM** » Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:24 am

jetsetdanny wrote: ↑Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:02 pm Thank you so much for this clear explanation!

In view of it, I have just voted "properly" in the main poll (and was a little surprised to see the results so far... ).

Danny, these philistines do not understand the true glory of MM & JSW!

AndyC · Post by **AndyC** » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:12 pm

Jet Set Willy has to come top really, it just has more staying power overall despite the quirky bugs (although I'll freely admit to think JSW2 is better overall).

Manic Miner comes in a very close second, fun but once you beat it there's not a lot of reason to go back.

As for third, Styx I guess, but honestly that's well into scraping the barrel territory.

Andre Leao · Post by **Andre Leao** » Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:54 pm

1. Jet Set Willy
2. Manic Miner

worcestersource · Post by **worcestersource** » Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:20 pm

1 JSW
2 MM

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu Dec 07, 2023 8:52 pm

1. Jet Set Willy
2. Manic Miner
3. Styx

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