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Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:42 pm
by druellan
Hi! I've found something interesting on the database:

There is an electronic publication called OUTLET, The Spectrum Drive Magazine. This publication used to compile a bunch of software (Tape, Disciple and Microdrive). The magazine is available for download, for example:

https://zxinfo.dk/details/0021896

And in that magazine there is a software called Randomaze. If you search for that software, you can find an individual entry on the database:

https://zxinfo.dk/details/0021888

This entry is marked as "On magazine covertape", so, seems to indicate the entry is related to the same software edition, but later is marked as MIA, which seems strange.

There are 1104 Outlet-related titles marked as MIA, I've checked a bunch, and all seems to be available inside the magazine:

https://zxinfo.dk/search/outlet?availab ... ttype=grid

So, I'm not sure what's the deal here. AFAIK seems that those titles where never published outside the magazine, so, the MIA tag is not correct?

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:53 pm
by PeterJ
Hi, [mention]Einar Saukas[/mention] will know for sure but I think that MIA flag is from WoS so may be out of date, which is why we don't use it.

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/index.p ... 6&id=21888

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:07 pm
by Nomad
Are all the OUTLET issues verified? I was under the impression that a number were corrupted archives.

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:17 pm
by druellan
I only tested a couple of images, but I can confirm that two of the MIA-marked software is OK, so, seems not to be a correlation.
Anyway, I can try and start testing all of them. I used to have a MGT Disciple, so, could be interesting.

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:25 pm
by Einar Saukas
Good catch! This information was originally imported from internal WoS archive files. I just checked, it was already inconsistent there. Although the WoS website interface was smart enough to avoid showing this inconsistency.

Since there's doubt if any of them is corrupt, and you are considering to test them now, I will wait for your confirmation before updating this information. Thank you!

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:28 pm
by Nomad
There are a bunch to test, druellan do you want to start at one end and work your way up/down.

From what I remember its the earlier ones that are weird more than the later issues.

Just give me the heads up what end you want to start with and I'll take the other end.

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:54 pm
by druellan
Yes, what I can do is start testing MGT images, that are the latests issues AFAIK. So, if you want to also start testing, you can do that on tapes or microdrives.

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 10:03 pm
by Nomad
Ok sure I will check the microdrive images then.

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:51 pm
by Einar Saukas
Thank you both!!!

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:56 pm
by druellan
Just finished testing. All MGT images seem to work fine. I've tested the first files on the disk, some on the middle and the last one.
The only image giving problems was OutletIssue101.mgt.zip, but seems to be an emulation problem, rather than corruption.

So, in short, everything looks fine on all .mgt images.

BTW, this magazine is fascinating. I streamed a couple of images live on Youtube and people where amazed, it generated a couple of video-responses.

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:06 am
by Einar Saukas
druellan wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:56 pm Just finished testing. All MGT images seems to work fine. I tested the first files, some on the middle and the last one.
The only image giving problems was OutletIssue101.mgt.zip, but seems to be an emulation problem, rather than corruption.

So, in short, everything looks fine on all .mgt images.
Thank you!!!

druellan wrote: Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:56 pm BTW, this magazine is fascinating. I streamed a couple of images live on Youtube and people where amazed, it generated a couple of video-responses.
You can post the link here :)

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 12:47 am
by druellan
Sure! But the stream is in Spanish:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtS86wFsHe8

And this is an AY music compilation, inspired by the stream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl52wSlyjQs

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:00 pm
by druellan
I keep diddling into this magazines, and I've found two interesting things that perhaps can help other people checking the other disk images.

* First, almost every software includes the magazine footer on the code. Looks suspicious at first sight, but it is just the routine that is hidden on those REMs.

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* Some images are altered. I've found a readme.txt on one image stating that the game Captain Dynamo was removed because of the "non-distribution" request (and it is, in fact, removed). So, it worth to double-check any "file not found" errors on the magazines, to see if they are realted to any denegation on WOS.

Re: Outlet Software marked as MIA

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:19 pm
by druellan
Another thing: some software was intentionally added to the magazine, even when it is corrupted. So far this is always clearly stated on the magazine's introductory text. So, if the software malfunctions, it is a good idea to read the instructions top to bottom.

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