Alone Coder wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:22 pm
I wrote the author on YouTube (where he had only 2 subscribers), but he didn't respond.
It seems the world record holding program is lost forever. It was not archived anywhere.
(The emulator's broken because it looks in the wrong place for the snapshots, but I managed to find them with a little bit of guesswork)
I'm not sure which version the source is; I quickly compiled it in pasmo and ended up with 292 bytes of code, which doesn't seem to match any version. But that may be down to user error tbh.
Lethargeek wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 1:22 pm
won't work for me - ERR_SSL_PROTOCOL_ERROR
could somebody download and share?
If you remove the s from https at the start of the url you should get a warning that you can't securely download the file but with the option to proceed.
Tried this in Fuse and all I get is a "some information has been lost in the conversion:the snapshot may not work." error
In Eighty One it's all over the shop, not obeying entries, pieces vanishing ( yes my moves were correct ) and in that old stalwart, No ca$h, it won't load at all, the same for zxspin.
played the version from zxart and opponent just lost a Knight suddenly.
E2E3 (made an error move, had to be E4)
E3E4 (now as if playing black)
C2C4
D1F3
I for one really enjoyed reading @Arkannoyed's thread in which the compact chess graphics engine was refined. I recall I read it on a flight with wifi. The data rate was awful but just allowed some forum reading and that thread was captivating. Would be amazing to see it paired with a game engine and get released one day.
The idea in fact was to pair my 3D display engine with something Chesskelet-esque in an attempt to make a 3D chess in under 1k. It’s definitely possible.
I´m sorry, I have not been paying attention to this forum for a long time.
I just moved my site somewhere else, and I noticed it has some issues, but the 269B snapshot is here:
Yes, I tried your moves and the glitch happens as you say. Unfortunately, I´m not working on this project anymore. Anyway, you can see that it is possible to play full games:
played the version from zxart and opponent just lost a Knight suddenly.
E2E3 (made an error move, had to be E4)
E3E4 (now as if playing black)
C2C4
D1F3
arkannoyed wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 9:16 am
The idea in fact was to pair my 3D display engine with something Chesskelet-esque in an attempt to make a 3D chess in under 1k. It’s definitely possible.
Hello! That is king of the expected behavior. It was never meant to beat anyone. I´m just happy that it did not behave weirdly. That's how far Chesskelet gets.
Alex
flange wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 9:49 pm
Well that was quick!
ZX81 1k FIDE chess walloped it in half a dozen moves.
I know this effort as I know Poudade's, Toledo's and many others. And I mostly agree with you. All of those projects play much better chess, have more options and have a nicer interface, but let's not confuse things. That was not my aim. If you are looking for something that will give you a nice chess experience, Chesskelet is not that. Mine is jut a coding effort for the smallest code, and minimalist GUI, not meant for any serious games.
Alex
flange wrote: ↑Fri Dec 29, 2023 3:31 pm
A full FIDE chess, that can even play itself,for the 1k ZX81 and ZX80 has been available for over 7 years now but never seems to be mentioned as opposed to the dreadful 80's effort. Whilst not for the spectrum the code may be adaptable and perhaps of interest to developers.
I re-compiled with zx spin and still get 269 bytes. I might be wrong but I recall recounting manually and i would get the same figure as zx spin. Where does the difference with pasmo come from? I wouldn't know.
Anyway, the topic could be trickier, as i count the metadata i use as part of the code. Strictly speaking, my code is even less than 269, at least 40 bytes less.
A.
Stu wrote: ↑Sun Jan 14, 2024 11:49 am
I've managed to track down this page:
(The emulator's broken because it looks in the wrong place for the snapshots, but I managed to find them with a little bit of guesswork)
I'm not sure which version the source is; I quickly compiled it in pasmo and ended up with 292 bytes of code, which doesn't seem to match any version. But that may be down to user error tbh.
reeagbo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 11:38 am
Hi flange,
I know this effort as I know Poudade's, Toledo's and many others. And I mostly agree with you. All of those projects play much better chess, have more options and have a nicer interface, but let's not confuse things. That was not my aim. If you are looking for something that will give you a nice chess experience, Chesskelet is not that. Mine is jut a coding effort for the smallest code, and minimalist GUI, not meant for any serious games.
Alex
Apologies If I came across a bit mean Reeagbo.
It's just that I really look forward to these minimalist versions and I innocently thought a strong as possible game was the intention so please forgive my error.
Strong game or not it doesn't take anything away from your accomplishment and I look forward to future progress.
No worries. No need to apologize. This has to be just fun.
flange wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2024 2:49 pm
Apologies If I came across a bit mean Reeagbo.
It's just that I really look forward to these minimalist versions and I innocently thought a strong as possible game was the intention so please forgive my error.
Strong game or not it doesn't take anything away from your accomplishment and I look forward to future progress.
