Found some old original tapes

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Rorthron wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:14 am
Yes. The overall quality of the .txt instructions in the archive is poor from a preservation perspective. They often have very little to do with the original instructions. Rather than transcriptions, they are frequently complete rewrites omitting information the author wasn't interested in and adding new material like POKEs and personal opinions on the game. So it would be great if we could have full inlay scans in the archive.
This is something which has always puzzled me. I love the original inlay insides and so many are missing...
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Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:14 am

Yes. The overall quality of the .txt instructions in the archive is poor from a preservation perspective.
We also discovered typos that ended up on the database. To have the source is invaluable IMO.
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I agree, I have scanned all the reverse sides , extras, receipts , maps ,and even the front if its got a price sticker etc to get a full flavour of the original 8-) :D

All 4500 games I have scanned are done in this way , got to get them all :P
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Rorthron wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:14 am
Yes. The overall quality of the .txt instructions in the archive is poor from a preservation perspective. They often have very little to do with the original instructions. Rather than transcriptions, they are frequently complete rewrites omitting information the author wasn't interested in and adding new material like POKEs and personal opinions on the game. So it would be great if we could have full inlay scans in the archive.
That might have been true 20 years ago when all we had were the info files from the Spectrum Game Database, but since then there has been an enormous effort from the community to provide faithful transcriptions of inlay cards and instructions in plain text format. I have been picking them for my personal archive for years, and even contributed in writing several myself - leaving even the spelling or printing errors untouched (!).

There is only a handful of TXT info files left over from that era in the archive now.
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Alessandro wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 12:14 pm
Rorthron wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:14 am
Yes. The overall quality of the .txt instructions in the archive is poor from a preservation perspective. They often have very little to do with the original instructions. Rather than transcriptions, they are frequently complete rewrites omitting information the author wasn't interested in and adding new material like POKEs and personal opinions on the game. So it would be great if we could have full inlay scans in the archive.
That might have been true 20 years ago when all we had were the info files from the Spectrum Game Database, but since then there has been an enormous effort from the community to provide faithful transcriptions of inlay cards and instructions in plain text format. I have been picking them for my personal archive for years, and even contributed in writing several myself - leaving even the spelling or printing errors untouched (!).

There is only a handful of TXT info files left over from that era in the archive now.
I don't have any quantitative evidence, but anecdotally I come across them quite often, so they may not be quite as rare as you suggest.
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For example, I was just looking at titles by Gargoyle Games. It looked at only two titles before I found an example of the sort of thing I meant: Tir na Nog contains commentary and cheats.
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Mort wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:56 am
I agree, I have scanned all the reverse sides , extras, receipts , maps ,and even the front if its got a price sticker etc to get a full flavour of the original 8-) :D

All 4500 games I have scanned are done in this way , got to get them all :P
Hi Mort

How about I make a list of my originals and mark the ones that have inside text. I don't have too many, but I'll publish the list and you let me know which ones you don't have or need better scans of.

Thanks
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About the reverse sides ...

It was a compromise due to size of these files, free space on hosting server isn't unlimited. So the same logic was used as on old WoS.

But I have sorted all scans of reverse sides for all publishers which I have processed up to this day. So it will be possible to add them very easilly in the future.
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cmal wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:40 pm
Mort wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:56 am
I agree, I have scanned all the reverse sides , extras, receipts , maps ,and even the front if its got a price sticker etc to get a full flavour of the original 8-) :D

All 4500 games I have scanned are done in this way , got to get them all :P
Hi Mort

How about I make a list of my originals and mark the ones that have inside text. I don't have too many, but I'll publish the list and you let me know which ones you don't have or need better scans of.

Thanks
Here is the list of Mort's inlays. ;)

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/mort_inlays.txt
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Cmal,

Drop us a line on what you have as there might differences etc.

All the best

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