How many Andy Greens do we need? 2,3 or 4?

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How many Andy Greens do we need? 2,3 or 4?

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There are currently two Andy Greens in the DB:
Classic era Andy Green #1 and modern era graphic artiste Andy Green #2. The latter is a member here @Andy Green :–)

These classic era games are presumably wrongly attributed to new Andy Green. @Andy Green can you confirm they are or are not you?
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... _Generator
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/9 ... _Challenge
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/9 ... Gold_Blast
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... usic_Maker
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/2 ... rship_Nova
Assuming it's not 'new' Andy, should we assume ^these^ are 'old' Andy, or do we need a third Andy Green in the DB?

There are also a lot of CGC entries. (I remember them at the time! no longer have the email address I'm afraid).
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... _Simulator
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... _Simulator
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... cLeans_Poo
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... olour_Maze
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... ye_Gambler
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... _Simulator
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... for_Idiots
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... ter_Pistol
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... _Simulator
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... _not_there
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... fect_Clash
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... Strip_Snap
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... X_Spectrum
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... _Simulator
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... s_Designer

@Andy Green are ^these^ you? I suspect not, and we need yet another Andy Green.

If anyone else has any other info please should out.
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Hi @Andy Green , are you still around? Can help us with this? Thanks!
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R-Tape wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 9:27 pm modern era graphic artiste Andy Green #2. The latter is a member here @Andy Green :–)
His Twitter username is "andymgreen68". It's a safe bet that "M" is from his middle name. Therefore I will rename him here from "Andy Green [2]" to "Andy M. Green", it will look better.
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Einar Saukas wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:36 am His Twitter username is "andymgreen68". It's a safe bet that "M" is from his middle name. Therefore I will rename him here from "Andy Green [2]" to "Andy M. Green", it will look better.
And his e-mail address starts with muppetboy - so that bet may not be that safe. :lol:
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Ops...
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I contacted Andy and asked if he could have a look at the thread.
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Hi all! Mike directed me to this thread. For some reason, I'm not getting notifications. Will check that so apologies for keeping you all in suspense!

Despite having dabbled with pixel art ever since my ZX81/ZX Spectrum/Amiga days, I didn't consider my works worthy of submitting to game companies. I was naïve and more into playing all the latest games! So anything pre-2000 (for argument sake) listed in Spectrum Computing database with the same name as me, isn't me.

Every homebrew and re-imagined game loading screens I've done are at ZX Art website. The URL contains "andy-green1". https://zxart.ee/eng/authors/a/andy-green1/ so I hope that helps too.

@R-Tape Al those software links in your comments isn't me. I have no other aliases.

This Andy Green, is also not me: https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/list?label_id=1033

Hope that clears it up! If I can help any further, please let me know. :D
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Andy Green wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:16 pm Every homebrew and re-imagined game loading screens I've done are at ZX Art website. The URL contains "andy-green1". https://zxart.ee/eng/authors/a/andy-green1/ so I hope that helps too.
Can I use your screen for Heavy on the magick please?
If you agree, I will add it to a bugfix
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Andy Green wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:16 pm If I can help any further, please let me know. :D
Could you please tell me where are you from? What city?

Perhaps I could use your city name to distinguish you from the other Andy Green, instead of "Andy Green [2]".
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Andy Green wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:16 pm Hi all! Mike directed me to this thread. For some reason, I'm not getting notifications. Will check that so apologies for keeping you all in suspense!
Coincidentally I just noticed this morning my SC emails are all going to spam. I think @PeterJ needs to set up SPF or DKIM, or look at why they’re not working if they are already set up.
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Einar Saukas wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:44 pm Could you please tell me where are you from? What city?

Perhaps I could use your city name to distinguish you from the other Andy Green, instead of "Andy Green [2]".
Ex-Essex lad but moved up North to South Yorkshire, UK in 2004. Indeed feel free to make any amendment necessary so there's only one of me. As my wife would say, "one Andy Green is enough". :lol:
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Bedazzle wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:34 pm Can I use your screen for Heavy on the magick please?
If you agree, I will add it to a bugfix
Of course! Go right ahead. :D
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Andy Green wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 5:23 pm Of course! Go right ahead. :D
Thank you!
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So, we need only 3 Andy Green? (or 4?)
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Einar Saukas wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:44 pm Could you please tell me where are you from? What city?

Perhaps I could use your city name to distinguish you from the other Andy Green, instead of "Andy Green [2]".
Might solve it now, but what if you do that for all Andy Greens and they live/move to the same city?
With the current data in the DB, I'm not sure yet what to use to make a person unique.
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XoRRoX wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:01 am Might solve it now, but what if you do that for all Andy Greens and they live/move to the same city?
With the current data in the DB, I'm not sure yet what to use to make a person unique.
Even great kings were numbered like I, II, III. So there is no problem for the Andy's. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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XoRRoX wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:01 am Might solve it now, but what if you do that for all Andy Greens and they live/move to the same city?
With the current data in the DB, I'm not sure yet what to use to make a person unique.
Lol. I tried to change my name on ZX Art to Andy M Green.... and username already taken! How many clones of me are there?! 🫢🤣😂
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Einar Saukas wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:44 pm Could you please tell me where are you from? What city?

Perhaps I could use your city name to distinguish you from the other Andy Green, instead of "Andy Green [2]".
Since people move around, and multiple people can live in the same location, it seems to me an unwise way to try to distinguish people. I personally don't see what's wrong with numbers.
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Seven.FFF wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 4:52 pm I think @PeterJ needs to set up SPF or DKIM, or look at why they’re not working if they are already set up.
Sorry @Seven.FFF, I missed this. Best to PM me with admin issues.

Can you not just add our email to safe senders? I have no idea what SPF or DKIM are

A user has offered to help me set-up a mail server, but I have not had a chance to reply yet.

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Rorthron wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 10:56 am Since people move around, and multiple people can live in the same location, it seems to me an unwise way to try to distinguish people. I personally don't see what's wrong with numbers.
There's nothing wrong with numbers. We still use numbers for homonymous whenever we don't have a better way to distinguish them.

But suppose you are searching for "Stephen King". Would you prefer that SpectrumComputing give you this list of results:
Stephen King [1]
Stephen King [2]
Stephen King [3]
Stephen King [4]
Stephen King [5]
or this list of results:
Stephen King [Oxford]
Stephen King [Portland]
Stephen King [Sydney]
Stephen King [Lincolnshire]
Stephen King [Ireland]
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Or...

Stephen King (Oxford)
Stephen King (Oxford)
Stephen King (Oxford)

Or...

Stephen King (Oxford)

...who actually lives in London now

To answer your question, I'd pick your first list.
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Of course we only use native city to distinguish between homonymous, when the native city distinguishes between homonymous :)
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I'm not sure either would be particularly useful to someone who doesn't know much about the individuals in question. However something like:

Stephen King [Author of IT]
Stephen King [OCEAN coder]
Stephen King [Graphics Artist]

Might actually help pin down who I'd be trying to find.
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AndyC wrote: Mon Jan 16, 2023 2:58 pm I'm not sure either would be particularly useful to someone who doesn't know much about the individuals in question. However something like:

Stephen King [Author of IT]
Stephen King [OCEAN coder]
Stephen King [Graphics Artist]

Might actually help pin down who I'd be trying to find.
This is a good idea!

Although I wouldn't put it between brackets this way, because it won't work for companies and we want a single consistent way to distinguish homonymous. But each entity has a field "comments" that's more adequate for this kind of information anyway. We could show comments in the list of results whenever available.
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