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PeterJ wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:39 pm The DroSoft re-release of Super Trolley contains 128K Music.

There is a preserved original release version here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
By Jas C. Brooke by the looks of it:

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This AY sound module is copyright (C) 1987/88 Jas.C.Brooke.  -Prepare to die!-
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PeterJ wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:39 pm The DroSoft re-release of Super Trolley contains 128K Music.

There is a preserved original release version here:
That's not the DroSoft re-release, it's the Mastertronic "Flippy Flippy" re-release according to the tzx:

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Full Title: Super Trolley (Flippy Flippy) - Side A
   Publisher: Mastertronic Ltd
      Author: Icon Design Ltd
Paul Atkinson
Ed Knight
        Year: 1988
    Language: English
    Category: Arcade: Action
       Price: £1.99
      Loader: ROM Loader
      Origin: Re-Release
     Comment: TZXed by Andrew Barker
It wouldn't be the first time Mastertronic released a 48 version quickly followed by a 48/128 version - they did the same with Zub and Amaurote.
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It is indeed the Mastertronic dual format (flippy flippy) release (previously not in the archive). I have the B side with the Amstrad CPC version)

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The Dro-soft version (originally described other way round) which is actually in the archive apparently does have 128K music too (although I'm having issues loading it)

The listing needs changing to highlight 128K music as this is not currently mentioned, and the newly recovered files added.

Thank you to Rodek for his many newly found corrections. His contribution to ZXDB is much appreciated.
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PeterJ wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:07 pm Journey's End

The TZX is wrong named as 'JourneysEnd(Mastervision).tzx.zip', when it should be Mastertronic.
WoS included Mastervision as the re-release company instead of Mastertronic. It seems it's been fixed in SC considering the second as the correct re-release company, as both inlay and instructions mention Mastertronic, not Mastervision. But the tzx filename wasn't changed.

The confusion in both companies might be in Mastervision was a brand of Mastertronic.
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Yes [mention]Juan F. Ramirez[/mention],

That sounds likely, as it's just the filename which is the issue. There may be others with this issue. Thank you.
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I'm confused by the entry for The Tree Stones...
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... ree_Stones

It lists the original publisher as The Guild, but the date of publication is given as 1987 and The Guild did not exist until 1991.

A different Guild? Or not published by the Guild at all? I can find no references or paper trail anywhere else to indicate where the Guild publishing reference came from. The game is also not featured in any of The Guild's advertising. It seems doubtful that it would have been sold in its current state, as it features some atrocious spelling mistakes.

References in the game suggest that it might have been distributed over Prestel. The author has a Prestel mailbox, anyway.

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8BitAG wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:32 pm I'm confused by the entry for The Tree Stones...
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... ree_Stones

It lists the original publisher as The Guild, but the date of publication is given as 1987 and The Guild did not exist until 1991.

A different Guild? Or not published by the Guild at all? I can find no references or paper trail anywhere else to indicate where the Guild publishing reference came from. The game is also not featured in any of The Guild's advertising. It seems doubtful that it would have been sold in its current state, as it features some atrocious spelling mistakes.

References in the game suggest that it might have been distributed over Prestel. The author has a Prestel mailbox, anyway.
Similar to Jhothamia 6 (1987) first published in compilation Out of This World vol 1, which since it includes Arlene cannot be from before 1991?
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Stefan wrote: Thu Feb 25, 2021 11:28 pm Similar to Jhothamia 6 (1987) first published in compilation Out of This World vol 1, which since it includes Arlene cannot be from before 1991?
From what I remember, all the games on those Guild compilations had previously been published/distributed elsewhere, or at least were created much earlier than the Guild was established. I've submitted a lot of date corrections in the past for titles like that but I can't recall where I got up to and, I have to admit, just stopped sending any more corrections due to the backlog.

Regarding Jhothamia 6, though, The Guild compilation was a re-release.

It was sold direct by the author David Edgar at least as early as 1987, when it was reviewed in Adventure Probe...
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David Edgar already has a publisher entry, so it can be added to his collection of self-published games...
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/list?label_id=3434
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8BitAG wrote: Fri Feb 26, 2021 8:16 am It was sold direct by the author David Edgar at least as early as 1987, when it was reviewed in Adventure Probe...
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And the magazine reference can be added too: Adventure Probe issue 18 page 11.
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I feel as though I need to mention again that the following information (along with my last 25+ bug reports) came from my friend Radek. Please provide any informative comments so I may feedback to him. I have five long emails each with around 30 reports in that I am working through. E&OE Thank you.

This came as a result of the findings regarding Defenda, 1984, Interstella Software (UK):

I appreciate one of the issues below have already been discussed and a way forward agreed.

There is TZX "Defenda.tzx.zip", this is not Interstella Software's release (1984) but TZX alternative to Currys's re-release (1986), so should be removed. This is also wrong in the TZXvault. I have found original Interstella Software's release (1984) in TOSEC, the file is attached in the appendix. This release is really signed like 1984 and doesn't contain AY sound (like Currys's re-release) just beeper sound and should be attached to game entry (with year 1984).

There is also TAP "Defenda.tap.zip", the same case like above, this is not Interstella Software's release (1984) but Currys's re-release (1986). If you don't want to remove it, just rename it to Currys (UK) (Publisher+TAP) and change the year to 1986. And everything will be all right.

There is yet TZX "Defenda(Currys).tzx.zip", here is everything all right, just the year should be changed from 1984 to 1986. (because "In-game" is 1986 and the cassette inlay is also 1986)

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
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This entry for "Prison Camp" - with no details / unknown release year:
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/3 ... rison_Camp

appears to just be a duplicate of "Alcatraz Harry" that is missing the loading screen.
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... traz_Harry
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kolbeck wrote: Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:27 pm TFO for ZX81

Was also published by danish ZX Data, SQL goes here:

-- TFO ()(unknown) [ID:29378] [ZX81 16K] --> 'ZX Data'
INSERT INTO releases (entry_id, release_seq, release_year, release_month, release_day, release_price) VALUES (29378, 1, 1982, NULL, NULL, NULL);
INSERT INTO publishers (entry_id, release_seq, label_id, publisher_seq) VALUES (29378, 1, (select id from labels where name='ZX Data'), 1);

Danish instructions has been found and will be uploaded as well :-)
Thanks [mention]kolbeck[/mention].

But this kind of informations it isn't necessary to generate. If you upload the files (how you already did) the preservation tools generate this SQL fully automatically during the processing. ;-)

Only if the re-releaser doesn't exist in ZXDB at all there is necessary to generate this code firstly and wait for the next regular ZXDB/SC update.
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2112 AD

The Zeppelin re-release doesn't appear to exist. There's no inlay, downloads or magazine references.
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This game should be added to "border effects" category:

Surface Tension:
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/5 ... ce_Tension
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StooB wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:33 am 2112 AD

The Zeppelin re-release doesn't appear to exist. There's no inlay, downloads or magazine references.
And there are maybe more ...

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/9 ... Simulators
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... den_Planet
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... /Speed_Ace
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pavero wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:25 pm
StooB wrote: Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:33 am 2112 AD

The Zeppelin re-release doesn't appear to exist. There's no inlay, downloads or magazine references.
And there are maybe more ...

https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/9 ... Simulators
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... den_Planet
https://spectrumcomputing.co.uk/entry/1 ... /Speed_Ace
Seems to be something to do with some master tapes:
https://worldofspectrum.org/forums/discussion/19547/
https://worldofspectrum.org/forums/disc ... ent/27678/
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Omega Software wasn't founded by Alpha Omega, but by CRL, Anirog and Silversoft in 1984.

Alpha Omega wasn't founded by The Power House, but by CRL in 1986. Alpha Omega was relauched as The Power House in 1987.
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The Sinclair User review on Omega Software's Corruption is for the 1988 Corruption from Rainbird.
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All the ZX81 titles on this page which are published by "Computer Rentals" (id 18303) should be changed to be "CRL Group" (id 2122).
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The ZX81 Galactic Patrol and the Spectrum Galactic Patrol are on the same tape so should be marked as multi-machine medium and should have some kind of link between them.

The ZX81 version re-release from "Omega (Czech)" should be "Omega Software Ltd" like on the Spectrum version.

The PCW classified advert listed on the Spectrum version is for another Galactic Patrol from Raven Computer Services.
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90 Supergames by Logic Sales

Logic Sales are not the publisher, and it's not MIA. They are a mail order company and "90 Supergames" is already listed as Games Compendium which was bundled with Spectrum +2's. They are probably selling off old stock.

Also, the Logic Sales page says they are also known as Byrite Software and Logic Mail Order so they should all be merged into a single entry.
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StooB wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:31 pm Omega Software wasn't founded by Alpha Omega, but by CRL, Anirog and Silversoft in 1984.

Alpha Omega wasn't founded by The Power House, but by CRL in 1986. Alpha Omega was relauched as The Power House in 1987.
According to old WoS archives, Omega Software became Alpha Omega, then later Alpha Omega became The Power House.

However the magazine reference suggests that Omega Software and Alpha Omega are not directly related (except both founded by CRL).

Are you sure the latter information is more accurate?
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On a related note, SC site didn't show a distinction between a company "founded" by another, and a company derived ("renamed") from another. I have just fixed it.

However this is the only part of the data that I originally imported from internal WoS files, that seemed confusing. According to old WoS, The Power House became Alpha-Omega Software that became Omega Software Ltd, instead of the opposite. Therefore it's possible other relations are inverted too. Here's the full list of "renaming" information provided by old WoS, if anyone notices anything wrong please let me know:

Alpha-Omega Software was renamed from The Power House
Omega Software Ltd was renamed from Alpha-Omega Software

A'n'F Software was renamed from Icon Design Ltd
Addictive Games Ltd was renamed from KJT Design Ltd
Alchemist PD was renamed from Alchemist Software
Anirog Software was renamed from Anco Software Ltd
Argonaut Software Ltd was renamed from Argonaut Games PLC
Argus Press Software Ltd was renamed from Grandslam Entertainments Ltd
Artech Digital Entertainments Inc was renamed from Artech Studios
Artech Digital Productions Inc was renamed from Artech Digital Entertainments Inc
Audiogenic Ltd was renamed from Audiogenic Software Ltd
Bolsoftware Communications Ltd was renamed from Year Zero Software
Brown Software was renamed from GonadoVision Inc
CDS Microsystems was renamed from Guildhall Leisure
CIDsoft was renamed from MS-CID
Cascade Games Ltd was renamed from Artronic Products Ltd
Cheetah Marketing Ltd was renamed from Cheetah International Ltd
Chezron Software was renamed from Fidcal
Consult Computer Systems was renamed from Consult Software Ltd
Cosgrove Hall Productions Ltd was renamed from Cosgrove Hall Films
Crystal Dream was renamed from CryptoGraphics
Custom Cables International Ltd was renamed from Add-On Electronics Ltd
Data Design Systems was renamed from Data Design Interactive
Database Publications Ltd was renamed from Europress Group
Discovery was renamed from n-Discovery
ERE Informatique was renamed from Exxos
East London Robotics Ltd was renamed from ELR International Ltd
Elinca Products Ltd was renamed from Celina Ltd
Empire Software was renamed from Empire Interactive
Fourth Dimension was renamed from 4th Dimension [2]
Galaxy Ltd was renamed from Galaxy Inc
Grandslam Entertainments Ltd was renamed from Grandslam Video Ltd
Hackers Software was renamed from Slowglass
Incentive Software Ltd was renamed from Superscape Ltd
Infogrames was renamed from Atari Inc
J.J. Soft was renamed from Thunderteam
JJK Research Limited was renamed from Thunderteam
Locomotive Software Ltd was renamed from LocoScript Software
Lump Logic was renamed from Crystal Dream
MC Lothlorien Ltd was renamed from Icon Design Ltd
MD Software was renamed from Vivid Image
Made in Spain was renamed from Zigurat Software
Micro Wares was renamed from Computer Wares
Morex Peripherals Ltd was renamed from Abbeydale Designers Ltd
Mr. Micro Ltd was renamed from Handmade Software Ltd
New Frontier S.A. was renamed from New Frontier S.L.
Number 9 Software was renamed from Number 9 Books
Orion [1] was renamed from Illusion Dreams
Oxford Digital Enterprises was renamed from Empire Interactive
Paragon Programming Ltd was renamed from Tiertex Ltd
Pear Tree Systems Ltd was renamed from Pear Tree Computers Ltd
Penguin Study Software was renamed from Literature.co.uk
Pixel Productions was renamed from Pixel Productions Multimedia Design
Quest Microsoftware was renamed from Fantasy Software [1]
Richard Wilcox Software was renamed from Elite Systems Ltd
Scorpio Software was renamed from Scorpio Gamesworld Ltd
Shards Software Ltd was renamed from Kesherweb
Soft Juliet was renamed from Juliet Software
Softek was renamed from Softek International Ltd
Special FX Software Ltd was renamed from Rage Software PLC
Special Playgames was renamed from New Special Playgames
Spectre Guys was renamed from Crystal Dream
Spectrum Games Ltd was renamed from Ocean Software Ltd
Superior Software Ltd [2] was renamed from Superior Interactive
Target Games Ltd was renamed from Mythos Games Ltd
Tehkan Ltd was renamed from Tecmo Ltd
Teque Software Development Ltd was renamed from Krisalis Software Ltd
The Macmillan Press Ltd was renamed from Macmillan Publishers Ltd
Transform Ltd was renamed from Transform Europe Ltd
Westwood Associates was renamed from Westwood Studios
Zeppelin Games Ltd was renamed from Eutechnyx
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Einar Saukas wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:02 pm
StooB wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:31 pm Omega Software wasn't founded by Alpha Omega, but by CRL, Anirog and Silversoft in 1984.

Alpha Omega wasn't founded by The Power House, but by CRL in 1986. Alpha Omega was relauched as The Power House in 1987.
According to old WoS archives, Omega Software became Alpha Omega, then later Alpha Omega became The Power House.

However the magazine reference suggests that Omega Software and Alpha Omega are not directly related (except both founded by CRL).

Are you sure the latter information is more accurate?
There's no evidence that Omega became Alpha Omega. There's a second magazine reference that also calls Alpha Omega a "new" label. Alpha Omega's address was the same as CRL's address (Carpenters Road, London), but Omega's wasn't - they were located at 121 London Road, Knebworth (which is where Central Solutions moved to in 1986, but I haven't found any connection between Omega and Central either yet).
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StooB wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:49 pm
Einar Saukas wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:02 pm According to old WoS archives, Omega Software became Alpha Omega, then later Alpha Omega became The Power House.

However the magazine reference suggests that Omega Software and Alpha Omega are not directly related (except both founded by CRL).

Are you sure the latter information is more accurate?
There's no evidence that Omega became Alpha Omega. There's a second magazine reference that also calls Alpha Omega a "new" label. Alpha Omega's address was the same as CRL's address (Carpenters Road, London), but Omega's wasn't - they were located at 121 London Road, Knebworth (which is where Central Solutions moved to in 1986, but I haven't found any connection between Omega and Central either yet).
Thanks for the confirmation!
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